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![]() "Colin Youngs" wrote in message ... Philip Eden wrote in message ... :http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm Remarkably little snow for 1979. Well, it ranked 12th out of 105. Lack of depth, I suppose ... there were 40 days with snow lying but it was never deeper than 9cm. In December 1981, by contrast, the deepest snow at 09z was 22cm and in February 1991 18cm. The only double-figured depth since then was 10cm on the morning of 28th December 2000. Philip Eden |
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![]() Philip Eden wrote: http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm Philip Eden Very difficult to interpret that data, Philip. What about a decadal running mean? :-) Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey |
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![]() "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message ... "Colin Youngs" wrote in message ... Philip Eden wrote in message ... :http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm Remarkably little snow for 1979. Well, it ranked 12th out of 105. Lack of depth, I suppose ... there were 40 days with snow lying but it was never deeper than 9cm. In December 1981, by contrast, the deepest snow at 09z was 22cm and in February 1991 18cm. The only double-figured depth since then was 10cm on the morning of 28th December 2000. Philip Eden Humm, so, and perhaps I've missed it, what defines the EWSI? It's not snow lying then but some combination of lying (at 9am?) and depth? |
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![]() "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message ... http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm Philip Eden Very interesting! Looking at it closely I notice that the snowfalls of December didn't register on your index although it was a cold month. Even in this part of England I had several days of 'snow lying' in 'northerly ' spells and usually I would expect Luton to get more snow in this weather type. Also, did Luton miss out on the late April snows of 1950? Peter Clarke Ewell Epsom55m |
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![]() "Peter Clarke" wrote in message ... "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message ... http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm Philip Eden Very interesting! Looking at it closely I notice that the snowfalls of December didn't register on your index although it was a cold month. Even in this part of England I had several days of 'snow lying' in 'northerly ' spells and usually I would expect Luton to get more snow in this weather type. Also, did Luton miss out on the late April snows of 1950? Peter Clarke Ewell Epsom55m Just spotted I didn't make it clear it was December 1950 I was referring to! Peter Clarke |
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![]() "Peter Hearnden" wrote in message ... Remarkably little snow for 1979. Well, it ranked 12th out of 105. Lack of depth, I suppose ... there were 40 days with snow lying but it was never deeper than 9cm. In December 1981, by contrast, the deepest snow at 09z was 22cm and in February 1991 18cm. The only double-figured depth since then was 10cm on the morning of 28th December 2000. Humm, so, and perhaps I've missed it, what defines the EWSI? It's not snow lying then but some combination of lying (at 9am?) and depth? Yes, Peter ... it's a sum of 0900z snow-depths for the entire winter. The idea was to have an index which incorporated both quantity and persistence. It's in the FAQ. pe |
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![]() "Peter Clarke" wrote in message ... "Peter Clarke" wrote in message ... Very interesting! Looking at it closely I notice that the snowfalls of December didn't register on your index although it was a cold month. Even in this part of England I had several days of 'snow lying' in 'northerly ' spells and usually I would expect Luton to get more snow in this weather type. Also, did Luton miss out on the late April snows of 1950? Just spotted I didn't make it clear it was December 1950 I was referring to! Peter Clarke Yes, Peter, the April 1950 snowstorm amounted to three hours of light to moderate snow up here which didn't settle! We got 11cm out of the April 1978 polar low, though. pe |
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![]() "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message ... "John Hall" wrote in message ... In article , Philip Eden writes: http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm Is that 1919 in third place? That's a bit of a surprise. Yes, a 30cm fall on Jan 27 which stayed with a fairly gradual ablation for 3 and a half weeks. The median value is just below 20, and, if you divide the data in categories 0, 1-10, 11-20, etc, the modal category is 1-10 (29 yrs) followed by 11-20 (22 yrs). The inference is that the South Midlands winter has always - well, since 1900 - been rather un-snowy. I think you are confirming what I suspected, that it is being partly driven by the 22 year solar cycle. However if you could add larger ticks to the x axis on a decadal timescale to the diagram it would make things a little clearer. Cheers, Alastair. Philip Eden |
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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
news:04e6a7618a0759e0314fd9429750cd6d.45219@mygate .mailgate.org "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm Very erratic double cycle sequence there as befits the apparent erratic behaviour of the moon. The next heavy snow spell due by that cycle, by the way, is for somewhere around 2021 or so ish. Sorry for this delay I lost the thread. If I am not mistaken, the main dates for heavy snow a 19 07, 16,17,and 19 1928 1939, 40, and 42 1947, 55, 63 and 82. Care to give me the months? -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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