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How likely in Sheffield?



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If this comes off it's going to get a tad scary.... thunder almost
certain along with hail, gusty winds, torrential rain, tornadoes.....!!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn5411.html

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How likely in Sheffield?



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"Les Crossan" wrote in message
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If this comes off it's going to get a tad scary.... thunder almost
certain along with hail, gusty winds, torrential rain, tornadoes.....!!


Cape/Lifted Index.

Am I right in thinking that this is in simplistic terms, a measure
of atmospheric instability?

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Col wrote:
"Les Crossan" wrote in message
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If this comes off it's going to get a tad scary.... thunder almost
certain along with hail, gusty winds, torrential rain, tornadoes.....!!



Cape/Lifted Index.

Am I right in thinking that this is in simplistic terms, a measure
of atmospheric instability?

Col


A bit more about it here...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.w...opics.htm#CAPE

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As CAPE goes up the chances for thunderstorms increase. As LI goes down
the chances of severe weather increase. There are other factors involved
(moisture, temperature, topography, whole - atmosphere) but CAPE that
high and LI that low are not common in the UK.

This is from Bernhard Oker's website:

LIFTED INDEX:
0 Thunderstorms unlikely

0 - -2 Thunderstorms possible - trigger needed
-3 - -5 Thunderstorms probable
-5 - -7 Strong/severe thunderstorms. Tornadoes possible
-7 - -9 Move to Alaska
-9 Yikes

CAPE:
300 Weak convection (showers)
300-1000 Weak thunderstorms
1000-2500 Moderate thunderstorms
2500-3000 Strong thunderstorms
3000+ Very Strong thunderstorms

Col wrote:
"Les Crossan" wrote in message
. uk...

If this comes off it's going to get a tad scary.... thunder almost
certain along with hail, gusty winds, torrential rain, tornadoes.....!!



Cape/Lifted Index.

Am I right in thinking that this is in simplistic terms, a measure
of atmospheric instability?

Col


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Wallsend, Tyne & Wear
54.95N 1.5W
Home of the Wallsend StormCam and the Backup USW FAQ -
www.uksevereweather.org.uk


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As CAPE goes up the chances for thunderstorms increase. As LI goes down
the chances of severe weather increase. There are other factors involved
(moisture, temperature, topography, whole - atmosphere) but CAPE that high
and LI that low are not common in the UK.

This is from Bernhard Oker's website:

LIFTED INDEX:
0 Thunderstorms unlikely

0 - -2 Thunderstorms possible - trigger needed
-3 - -5 Thunderstorms probable
-5 - -7 Strong/severe thunderstorms. Tornadoes possible
-7 - -9 Move to Alaska
-9 Yikes

CAPE:
300 Weak convection (showers)
300-1000 Weak thunderstorms
1000-2500 Moderate thunderstorms
2500-3000 Strong thunderstorms
3000+ Very Strong thunderstorms

Col wrote:
"Les Crossan" wrote in
message
. uk...

If this comes off it's going to get a tad scary.... thunder almost
certain along with hail, gusty winds, torrential rain, tornadoes.....!!



Cape/Lifted Index.

Am I right in thinking that this is in simplistic terms, a measure
of atmospheric instability?

Col


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Wallsend, Tyne & Wear
54.95N 1.5W
Home of the Wallsend StormCam and the Backup USW FAQ -
www.uksevereweather.org.uk


So what is Sheffield on the LIFTED INDEX:?


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C wrote:
"Les Crossan" wrote in
message . uk...

As CAPE goes up the chances for thunderstorms increase. As LI goes down
the chances of severe weather increase. There are other factors involved
(moisture, temperature, topography, whole - atmosphere) but CAPE that high
and LI that low are not common in the UK.

This is from Bernhard Oker's website:

LIFTED INDEX:

0 Thunderstorms unlikely


0 - -2 Thunderstorms possible - trigger needed
-3 - -5 Thunderstorms probable
-5 - -7 Strong/severe thunderstorms. Tornadoes possible
-7 - -9 Move to Alaska
-9 Yikes

CAPE:
300 Weak convection (showers)
300-1000 Weak thunderstorms
1000-2500 Moderate thunderstorms
2500-3000 Strong thunderstorms
3000+ Very Strong thunderstorms

Col wrote:

"Les Crossan" wrote in
message
. co.uk...


If this comes off it's going to get a tad scary.... thunder almost
certain along with hail, gusty winds, torrential rain, tornadoes.....!!



Cape/Lifted Index.

Am I right in thinking that this is in simplistic terms, a measure
of atmospheric instability?

Col


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Wallsend, Tyne & Wear
54.95N 1.5W
Home of the Wallsend StormCam and the Backup USW FAQ -
www.uksevereweather.org.uk



So what is Sheffield on the LIFTED INDEX:?


minus 6 Sunday

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"Les Crossan" wrote in message
. uk...
As CAPE goes up the chances for thunderstorms increase. As LI goes down
the chances of severe weather increase. There are other factors involved
(moisture, temperature, topography, whole - atmosphere) but CAPE that
high and LI that low are not common in the UK.

This is from Bernhard Oker's website:

LIFTED INDEX:
0 Thunderstorms unlikely

0 - -2 Thunderstorms possible - trigger needed
-3 - -5 Thunderstorms probable
-5 - -7 Strong/severe thunderstorms. Tornadoes possible
-7 - -9 Move to Alaska
-9 Yikes

CAPE:
300 Weak convection (showers)
300-1000 Weak thunderstorms
1000-2500 Moderate thunderstorms
2500-3000 Strong thunderstorms
3000+ Very Strong thunderstorms


Thanks to you and Keith for the info!

Col
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Bloody hell I hate jargon.

It'll never replace birds perched on rooftops and the times of the
phases for me.

Damned Bee Bloody C!


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