Despite intermittent sunshine and no really thick cloud, it's felt very
cold indeed for July down here (Southampton) today. Mid-summer is
normally fairly temperate here even in changeable spells of weather -
the last cold blast of the spring normally occurring sometime in June
and the first of Autumn normally late August.

Nick

Only made it up to 19.1C here today despite it being very sunny, that wind
had a definite 'chilly' feel to it.

A big change in temperature from yesterday which was gloriously warm, sunny
with hardly any wind.

Currently @ 17:15, 18.5C, RH 51%, DP 8.1C, 1011.4 mb, wind WNW 11.0 mph.
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Nick G
Thorverton, Exe Valley, Devon
50 m amsl

wrote in message
ups.com...
Despite intermittent sunshine and no really thick cloud, it's felt very
cold indeed for July down here (Southampton) today. Mid-summer is
normally fairly temperate here even in changeable spells of weather -
the last cold blast of the spring normally occurring sometime in June
and the first of Autumn normally late August.

Nick

wrote:

Despite intermittent sunshine and no really thick cloud, it's felt very
cold indeed for July down here (Southampton) today. Mid-summer is
normally fairly temperate here even in changeable spells of weather -
the last cold blast of the spring normally occurring sometime in June
and the first of Autumn normally late August.

Nick


Currently 13.4C in Fleet, Hampshire, and raining too. It really does feel
cold.


--
Brian Wakem

wrote:
Despite intermittent sunshine and no really thick cloud, it's felt very
cold indeed for July down here (Southampton) today. Mid-summer is
normally fairly temperate here even in changeable spells of weather -
the last cold blast of the spring normally occurring sometime in June
and the first of Autumn normally late August.

Nick


Tell me about it - it's been pouring down since 9 this morning;
temperature is currently a tropical 12c in Heavy Rain.

A visit from the puncture fairy on the ride back from the gym this
morning was especially welcome in the pouring rain

East Anglia is definately not currently living up to its reputation as
the driest part of the UK; above average rain in both May and June, and
I would be prepared to bet we are half way there to the July average
after today.

And as I type, thunder rumbles in the distance.

--
Chris
www.ivy-house.net
A soggy Swaffham, Norfolk

In uk.sci.weather on Mon, 4 Jul 2005 at 17:28:00, Brian Wakem wrote :
wrote:

Despite intermittent sunshine and no really thick cloud, it's felt very
cold indeed for July down here (Southampton) today. Mid-summer is
normally fairly temperate here even in changeable spells of weather -
the last cold blast of the spring normally occurring sometime in June
and the first of Autumn normally late August.

Currently 13.4C in Fleet, Hampshire, and raining too. It really does feel
cold.

Yesterday's high here was just 14.7°C, my 4th coolest July day in 23
years.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Must be around 6 or 7 degrees below normal, equivalent to freezing in
January or single figures in October? What's strange is that such an
ordinary looking west or northwesterly airmass should produce such low
temperatures - normally to produce temperatures significantly below
normal, a strong blast from the north or northeast or (in winter only)
east or southeast is required. Or fog...

NIck

In message .com,
writes
Must be around 6 or 7 degrees below normal, equivalent to freezing in
January or single figures in October? What's strange is that such an
ordinary looking west or northwesterly airmass should produce such low
temperatures - normally to produce temperatures significantly below
normal, a strong blast from the north or northeast or (in winter only)
east or southeast is required. Or fog...

NIck

The difference is that in summer the ocean to the west is a source of
relatively cold air while in winter it is a source of relatively warm
air. The ocean surface temperature to the west of the British Isles
varies by only a few degrees between summer and winter.

Norman.
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--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l.
England

Must be around 6 or 7 degrees below normal, equivalent to freezing in
January or single figures in October? What's strange is that such an
ordinary looking west or northwesterly airmass should produce such low
temperatures - normally to produce temperatures significantly below
normal, a strong blast from the north or northeast or (in winter only)
east or southeast is required. Or fog...

NIck

The difference is that in summer the ocean to the west is a source of
relatively cold air while in winter it is a source of relatively warm air.
The ocean surface temperature to the west of the British Isles varies by
only a few degrees between summer and winter.

Norman.
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)
--

Not really quite right. The sea temperature off Cornwall at the moment is 16
degrees. The average annual range in recent years being 10 degres (8 - 18).

The warmest places yesterday were in Devon & Cornwall (south coast areas
18-20 degrees, 18.7 here in Penzance). So only 1-2 degrees below normal
here. If anything the nearby sea had a slight warming affect on the cold air
mass, the largest negative anomalies generally being inland.

Graham

In message , Graham Easterling
writes
Must be around 6 or 7 degrees below normal, equivalent to freezing in
January or single figures in October? What's strange is that such an
ordinary looking west or northwesterly airmass should produce such low
temperatures - normally to produce temperatures significantly below
normal, a strong blast from the north or northeast or (in winter only)
east or southeast is required. Or fog...

NIck

The difference is that in summer the ocean to the west is a source of
relatively cold air while in winter it is a source of relatively warm air.
The ocean surface temperature to the west of the British Isles varies by
only a few degrees between summer and winter.

Norman.
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)
--

Not really quite right. The sea temperature off Cornwall at the moment is 16
degrees. The average annual range in recent years being 10 degres (8 - 18).

The warmest places yesterday were in Devon & Cornwall (south coast areas
18-20 degrees, 18.7 here in Penzance). So only 1-2 degrees below normal
here. If anything the nearby sea had a slight warming affect on the cold air
mass, the largest negative anomalies generally being inland.

Graham

I was talking about the ocean surface temperature i.e. the surface
temperature of the water beyond the continental shelf edge. I agree that
the surface temperature of the inshore waters can be very different and
the summer/winter variation is very much greater. The characteristics of
the maritime airmasses are determined partly by the broadscale ocean
surface temperatures and partly by airmass origin although, as you say,
there can be local modification resulting from inshore sea surface
temperatures.

Norman.
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)
--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l.
England

"Paul Hyett" wrote in message
...
In uk.sci.weather on Mon, 4 Jul 2005 at 17:28:00, Brian Wakem wrote :
wrote:

Despite intermittent sunshine and no really thick cloud, it's felt very
cold indeed for July down here (Southampton) today. Mid-summer is
normally fairly temperate here even in changeable spells of weather -
the last cold blast of the spring normally occurring sometime in June
and the first of Autumn normally late August.

Currently 13.4C in Fleet, Hampshire, and raining too. It really does feel
cold.

Yesterday's high here was just 14.7°C, my 4th coolest July day in 23
years.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


Currently 16C here in S Cambs and depressingly grey. A very unpleasant day.

Gavin.