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Keith (Southend) wrote:
Keith (Southend) wrote:

Keith (Southend) wrote:

GBH wrote:

Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall?
Either could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not
configured to trust the local network.

Geoff
I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through
the PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times
out trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and
reloading the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've
spent to long on this and I'm tired!

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected. but
still I can download nothing!

We have a Linksys Wireless-G router in our house, and although I didn't
set it up I did originally have a similar problem to you - excellent
strength but no connectivity. The problem turned out to be with the
router rather than my machine, because it was set to do MAC address
filtering. This is where the router blocks network cards that aren't in
its 'allowed' list - in my case my laptop's wireless card.

The Wireless-G router has a web-based configuration interface that you
may be able to connect to from your daughter's laptop, given that her
machine seems to connect. Open up a web browser and go to
http://192.168.0.1/ (or whatever the IP address of the router is -
possibly listed using ipconfig /all on her machine?). There is a
'Wireless' menu in the interface with 'MAC Filtering' as a submenu. If
'Wireless MAC Filter' is enabled in this screen then that may be your
problem - you can disable it, though it would be better to add your MAC
address to the list. Your MAC address is the 'Physical Address' you see
when you run ipconfig /all . Make a note of any changes you make, in
case you need to reverse them later...

Other things to check in the configuration interface include whether the
router is set up to use security (Wireless - Security on the web
interface). I've had major headaches before only to discover that I
should have been using a password, or a different key length.

Good luck with getting it working, these things can take an awful amount
of perseverance!

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Paul Duff wrote:
Keith (Southend) wrote:

Keith (Southend) wrote:

Keith (Southend) wrote:

GBH wrote:

Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall?
Either could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not
configured to trust the local network.

Geoff

I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through
the PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times
out trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and
reloading the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now,
I've spent to long on this and I'm tired!


Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected.
but still I can download nothing!


We have a Linksys Wireless-G router in our house, and although I didn't
set it up I did originally have a similar problem to you - excellent
strength but no connectivity. The problem turned out to be with the
router rather than my machine, because it was set to do MAC address
filtering. This is where the router blocks network cards that aren't in
its 'allowed' list - in my case my laptop's wireless card.

The Wireless-G router has a web-based configuration interface that you
may be able to connect to from your daughter's laptop, given that her
machine seems to connect. Open up a web browser and go to
http://192.168.0.1/ (or whatever the IP address of the router is -
possibly listed using ipconfig /all on her machine?). There is a
'Wireless' menu in the interface with 'MAC Filtering' as a submenu. If
'Wireless MAC Filter' is enabled in this screen then that may be your
problem - you can disable it, though it would be better to add your MAC
address to the list. Your MAC address is the 'Physical Address' you see
when you run ipconfig /all . Make a note of any changes you make, in
case you need to reverse them later...

Other things to check in the configuration interface include whether the
router is set up to use security (Wireless - Security on the web
interface). I've had major headaches before only to discover that I
should have been using a password, or a different key length.

Good luck with getting it working, these things can take an awful amount
of perseverance!


Thanks Paul and others. I had added the 'new MAC address to the list but
this seemed to make no difference. As you say one needs to persevere,
it's probably a combination of many suggestions on this thread. I have a
few more things to try today, after sleeping on the problem.

Many thanks

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Hi, got a belkin wireless router which sometimes has a mind of it`s own.
but this web page might help you out
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/more...lesssetup.mspx

But what would say when going wireless you do have to make sure that you
take all security measures possible. I no from personal experience, i
just got the router up and running, just went to get a coffee before
making sure i checked all the right boxs on the setup page. But some
cheeky bug@er got on to the system and locked me out. Another problem
was that some pcs in the house had to be repositioned to get the best
signal, one pc in my son`s bedroom had to be moved from one side of the
room to the opposite to get a good signal.

before i forget you might need to upgrade the routers firmware.

http:\\www.linksy.com\download

another thing you might want to look into is WEP but somehow config of
my wireless network was wrong. The box was checked for "use IEEE 802.1x
authentication for this network" and this was causing the network to
drop out momentarily

hope this helps,

clive

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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:14:29 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:

As you say one needs to persevere, it's probably a combination of
many suggestions on this thread.

Yes, there are lots of variables and all need to be set appropiately
for things to work. Randomly poking about is not likely to produce
good results quickly.

You need to write down all the keys, passwords, IP address's, MAC
address's etc then go through the laptops wireless setup and ensure it
matches that of the router. As the router works with another laptop
I'd be loath to tweak that.

People have been posting IP numbers, don't use them unless they just
happen to be in the same range that your system uses.

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Dave Liquorice wrote:

You need to write down all the keys, passwords, IP address's, MAC
address's etc then go through the laptops wireless setup and ensure it
matches that of the router. As the router works with another laptop
I'd be loath to tweak that.

First the good news...
I got the new Laptop connected. What I did was looked at the TCP / IP
settings for both the LAN and the WIreless. You can't have both up at
the same time. Anyway I made the last number different. ***.***.*.5 for
the LAN, ***.***.*.6 for the Wireless. And it worked.

Now the bad news...
Unfortunately the other Notebook now doesn't, and I have changed nothing
on that. "Can not associate with AP". Bah.

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Quoting from message
posted on 24 Jul 2005 by Keith (Southend)
I would like to add:

Dave Liquorice wrote:

You need to write down all the keys, passwords, IP address's, MAC
address's etc then go through the laptops wireless setup and ensure it
matches that of the router. As the router works with another laptop
I'd be loath to tweak that.

First the good news...
I got the new Laptop connected. What I did was looked at the TCP / IP
settings for both the LAN and the WIreless. You can't have both up at
the same time. Anyway I made the last number different. ***.***.*.5 for
the LAN, ***.***.*.6 for the Wireless. And it worked.

Keith - I bought an Acer Travelmate about 3 weeks ago and fortunately did
not have the problems which you have.

Entering an IP address in the TCP/IP settings for the Wireless connection
with the router as gateway and IIRC server or something gave me full access
to the LAN (set up previously with two wired connections for desktop models,
one of which is RISC OS).

My router is a different make from yours but I did not set any MAC addresses
in the router, which now has encrypted connection and ZoneAlarm prevents
any unauthorised access.

If someone can tell me how to grab screenshots on a windows PC I could email
you pics of the settings on the router html pages.

Now the bad news...
Unfortunately the other Notebook now doesn't, and I have changed nothing
on that. "Can not associate with AP". Bah.


You didn't give your laptop the IP address of hers by any chance?

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Elaine Jones wrote:

Keith - I bought an Acer Travelmate about 3 weeks ago and fortunately did
not have the problems which you have.

Entering an IP address in the TCP/IP settings for the Wireless connection
with the router as gateway and IIRC server or something gave me full access
to the LAN (set up previously with two wired connections for desktop models,
one of which is RISC OS).

My router is a different make from yours but I did not set any MAC addresses
in the router, which now has encrypted connection and ZoneAlarm prevents
any unauthorised access.

If someone can tell me how to grab screenshots on a windows PC I could email
you pics of the settings on the router html pages.



You didn't give your laptop the IP address of hers by any chance?


No, not the same IP address.

I've now stuffed the installation on her laptop, I uninstalled the
Linksys software rebooted and thought I'd try again. Problem is it keeps
hanging up on has detected a previous incomplete installation. Damn,
it's Monday tomorrow and I've spent 2 days on this now :-(

I'm not impressed with Linksys.

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Ok, we are running wi-fi on both notebooks and the rest of the street g

I tried a seperate TCP / IP address on her notebook ***.***.*.10,
completely out the air, and it works. Now if I then only allow PC's with
the two MAC addresses my new one works, but my daughters disconnects.
Next thing to try is WEP and ignore the MAC address bit for the time
being. I have paper with notes on all over the place!

Ok, at least I have my benchmark now.

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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:48:24 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:

I'm not impressed with Linksys.

Don't blame Linksys, blame doze for not being sensible about it
settings pages. You have to look through at least two different
settings dialogues to get things right and the two bits don't warn
warn you if they have conflicting settings. You can't even use
ifconfig from the the command line as that doesn't tell everything
that needs to know... At least that is my experience of doze and
networking.

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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:32:07 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:

What I did was looked at the TCP / IP settings for both the LAN and
the WIreless. You can't have both up at the same time.

You can but that requires mucking about with subnets and/or different
netmasks for each interface.

Anyway I made the last number different. ***.***.*.5 for the LAN,
***.***.*.6 for the Wireless. And it worked.

Key facts. Machines don't have IP address's only the interfaces do, a
machine can have multiple different IP address's one for each
interface it has. You can't have duplicate IP address's within the
same network.

Now the bad news...
Unfortunately the other Notebook now doesn't, and I have changed
nothing on that. "Can not associate with AP". Bah.

Was this one within range? What did the hardware report say? This one
was using DHCP wasn't it? What range of address's does your AP use for
DHCP? .6 or .5 are not within that range are they? Static IP's cannot
be used from within the DHCP range willy nilly. If you do, at some
point DHCP will try and use that IP address and it all goes pear
shaped...

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