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JPG wrote:

Check that you haven't got a proxy server set in IE. If you've
previously had AOL or Freeserve your connection settings might be all
over the place.

Martin


I doubt it, not had either of those two on these pc's.

I have a lot of things to look at and try now, just need a few spare
hours g

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Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall? Either
could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not configured to trust
the local network.

Geoff

"alistair" wrote in message
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yes, the mac address is the physical address.

did you try to setup the ip address manually? as it says below
"dhcp enabled : no"
if you open the network details for this connection from control panel and
enable dhcp, this might get it working.
otherwise try setting the network address to
192.168.1.10
as generally private addresses setup by routers will always start
192.168.1.x




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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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alistair wrote:
a few things you can try.
if you fire up a windows command prompt start-run then enter cmd
you can try and force the computer to connect/disconnect with the
command
ipconfig /release


"The Operation Failed as no adapter is in the state permissible for this
operation"

ipconfig /renew


Error: unrecongnised or incompete comand line.

and you can get information on what the current connection status is
with
ipconfig /all


Ok more success he
After the LAN etc..

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description : Broadcom 802.11g Network
Adapter
Physical Address : 00-0E-**-**-**-** (* - letters or
numbers)
Dhcp Enabled : No
IP Address : 168.***.*.*
Subnet Mast : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway : correct
DNS Servers : Both correct

Is the Physical Address the 'MAC Address' ?



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GBH wrote:
Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall? Either
could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not configured to trust
the local network.

Geoff


I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through the
PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times out
trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and reloading
the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've spent to
long on this and I'm tired!

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Keith (Southend) wrote:
GBH wrote:

Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall?
Either could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not
configured to trust the local network.

Geoff



I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through the
PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times out
trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and reloading
the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've spent to
long on this and I'm tired!


Ok, I'm back to were I was 9am this morning !

I can now get into the Web based setup screen ~ phew

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Keith (Southend) wrote:
Keith (Southend) wrote:

GBH wrote:

Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall?
Either could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not
configured to trust the local network.

Geoff




I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through the
PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times out
trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and
reloading the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've
spent to long on this and I'm tired!


Ok, I'm back to were I was 9am this morning !

I can now get into the Web based setup screen ~ phew


I have it on:
Mixed mode
SSID Broadcast: enabled
Wireless Security: Disabled
Channel 11

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected. but
still I can download nothing!

It was when I tried to set up things manually and enable dhcp that I
lost the http link to the access point.


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In article , dated Sat, 23 Jul
2005, "Keith (Southend)" wrote

I have it on:
Mixed mode
SSID Broadcast: enabled
Wireless Security: Disabled
Channel 11

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected. but
still I can download nothing!

It was when I tried to set up things manually and enable dhcp that I
lost the http link to the access point.


I know very little of these things and am following this discussion with
great interest. We've got a rather old Linksys wireless hub, linked to
a Solwise ADSL modem, and two or three various machines connected to it
- a desktop and laptop with Linksys cards, and a Toshiba laptop with
built-in card. The system has been up and running now for three years
and is incredibly stable, it only ever falls over if Demon does so
first. However, it's so antique that we dare not change anything in the
way it runs, which doesn't use DCHP, but relies on each component in the
network identifying itself with a fixed IP address (via TCP/IP dialogue
on the computer. We are all running XP).

This means in practice, though, that I don't seem ever to be able to get
into any other networks (for example, those at cafes or stations) - I
can see the network and am apparently connected to it, but like you,
cannot download anything or see the network home page.

I suppose it must be something to do with the DCHP/ fixed internal IP
address thingy? At any rate, if you can solve your problem, Keith, I
may be able to solve mine too!






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Kate Brown wrote:
In article , dated Sat, 23 Jul
2005, "Keith (Southend)" wrote


I have it on:
Mixed mode
SSID Broadcast: enabled
Wireless Security: Disabled
Channel 11

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected.
but still I can download nothing!

It was when I tried to set up things manually and enable dhcp that I
lost the http link to the access point.


I know very little of these things and am following this discussion with
great interest. We've got a rather old Linksys wireless hub, linked to
a Solwise ADSL modem, and two or three various machines connected to it
- a desktop and laptop with Linksys cards, and a Toshiba laptop with
built-in card. The system has been up and running now for three years
and is incredibly stable, it only ever falls over if Demon does so
first. However, it's so antique that we dare not change anything in the
way it runs, which doesn't use DCHP, but relies on each component in the
network identifying itself with a fixed IP address (via TCP/IP dialogue
on the computer. We are all running XP).

This means in practice, though, that I don't seem ever to be able to get
into any other networks (for example, those at cafes or stations) - I
can see the network and am apparently connected to it, but like you,
cannot download anything or see the network home page.

I suppose it must be something to do with the DCHP/ fixed internal IP
address thingy? At any rate, if you can solve your problem, Keith, I
may be able to solve mine too!


Kate,

If I resolve this I most definately will let you know, I've saved your
e-mail address.

What I find extremly intresting is you have an almost identical list of
equipment and settings to myself.
1. Demon account
2. Solwise adsl router.
3. Toshiba Laptop (Only my daughters has a Linksys PCMIA Card)
4. Exactly the same symptoms. Connected, but nothing happens.

Indidentally...
My daughters laptop upstairs is currently connected fine on Channel 11,
(67%), as I just did some
updates. Infact it is picking up 2 signals, mine 'Linksys' and another
'Chan 1'
which is actually on Channel 6. (37%)I can even see their MAC address.
Someone in the area. So it does work
with the Linksys card. The IP address I having thoughts about and I
still don't understand the DCHP bit, I played
around with that this morning and lost the lot, had to reset the Linksys
Access Point.

Sorry to the rest of you for being off-topic, but I've had more joy from
here than alt.internet.wireless. Thankyou for that :-)

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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:22:54 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:

IP Address, Subnet Mast and Default Gateway all there,


And within the right range for the router?

Just strange that it says I have an excellent connection, yet I
can't receive any packets :-(


Not strange, it just shows that the hardware is working but that the
higher level software protocols aren't. The none thinking way out is
to ensure that DHCP is enabled in the router (probably is as other
machines talk without fuss) and in the settings for wireless interface
in your laptop. I'm not a windows users but ISTR that there is a check
box labled something along the lines of "Determine settings
automatically" within the properties of the interface.


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Hi Keith
as others have mentioned DHCP is the easy way to go, when you say you
lost the connection when you tried switching to it this morning, did you
just switch, to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain DNS server
address automatically" on the computer? You'll need to check if DHCP is
active on the wireless access point, as this would explain the complete loss
this morning. I would try and ping a few addresses to see how far you can
communicate, go to the 'run' command and type CMD. Then type PING and the
address of the router 168.****. Then try PING 212.58.224.81. Then try PING
www.bbc.co.uk. If you've got another computer attached to the router, try
pinging that IP address as well. This should tell you if you've got access
across your LAN and if you've got access to the WAN. If your running XP is
it home or pro? I would also look at XP SP2 causing problems, especially
windows firewall, even if you disable it in one window, it still runs on the
connection unless you knock it off again in 'advanced'. Can you see "view
status of this connection", when in network connections? If so what is the
state of packets sent and received? Have you run the Wireless network setup
wizard?
Hope that gets you further on in resolving your problems.
Regards
Azz

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Kate Brown wrote:
In article , dated Sat, 23 Jul
2005, "Keith (Southend)" wrote


I have it on:
Mixed mode
SSID Broadcast: enabled
Wireless Security: Disabled
Channel 11

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected. but
still I can download nothing!

It was when I tried to set up things manually and enable dhcp that I
lost the http link to the access point.


I know very little of these things and am following this discussion with
great interest. We've got a rather old Linksys wireless hub, linked to a
Solwise ADSL modem, and two or three various machines connected to it - a
desktop and laptop with Linksys cards, and a Toshiba laptop with built-in
card. The system has been up and running now for three years and is
incredibly stable, it only ever falls over if Demon does so first.
However, it's so antique that we dare not change anything in the way it
runs, which doesn't use DCHP, but relies on each component in the network
identifying itself with a fixed IP address (via TCP/IP dialogue on the
computer. We are all running XP).

This means in practice, though, that I don't seem ever to be able to get
into any other networks (for example, those at cafes or stations) - I can
see the network and am apparently connected to it, but like you, cannot
download anything or see the network home page.

I suppose it must be something to do with the DCHP/ fixed internal IP
address thingy? At any rate, if you can solve your problem, Keith, I may
be able to solve mine too!


Kate,

If I resolve this I most definately will let you know, I've saved your
e-mail address.

What I find extremly intresting is you have an almost identical list of
equipment and settings to myself.
1. Demon account
2. Solwise adsl router.
3. Toshiba Laptop (Only my daughters has a Linksys PCMIA Card)
4. Exactly the same symptoms. Connected, but nothing happens.

Indidentally...
My daughters laptop upstairs is currently connected fine on Channel 11,
(67%), as I just did some
updates. Infact it is picking up 2 signals, mine 'Linksys' and another
'Chan 1'
which is actually on Channel 6. (37%)I can even see their MAC address.
Someone in the area. So it does work
with the Linksys card. The IP address I having thoughts about and I still
don't understand the DCHP bit, I played
around with that this morning and lost the lot, had to reset the Linksys
Access Point.

Sorry to the rest of you for being off-topic, but I've had more joy from
here than alt.internet.wireless. Thankyou for that :-)

--
Keith (Southend)

'Weather Home & Abroad'
http://www.southendweather.net



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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:15:05 +0100, "Keith (Southend)"
wrote:

GBH wrote:
Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall? Either
could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not configured to trust
the local network.

Geoff


I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through the
PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times out
trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and reloading
the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've spent to
long on this and I'm tired!


Are you getting good pings from some popular sites? See if you can at
least get a response from www.bbc.co.uk and other sites. This will
show that you are connected to the internet and not just to your
router or local network.

If you are connecting to the internet your browser settings could be
wrong.

Martin


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