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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Jon, does anyone here have any contact with Joe outside of this group?


Yes, a few, Lawrence. I will check to see when Joe was due back
from Sri Lanka. AFAIK he and his family were on the western side so
should've escaped the worst of the effects.

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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:42:18 +0000 (UTC), "Michael Mcneil"
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The biggest tragedy is that this following could all have been
anticipated -at least in part.


My immediate neighbours are on a beach holiday just outside Trivandrum
in Kerala just up on the west flank of India - where I was last
Christmas more or less. They telephoned this morning and said they
were completely unware of what had happened until hotel staff informed
everyone.
As far as early warnings are concerned I think there is a well
established tsunami early warning station in...Honolulu?...to warn of
things in the Pacific, but know of nothing in the India Ocean.
No doubt the time lag between event and coastal impact will become
clear.I thought I heard on Sky someone say the major wave was up to
three storeys high. Frightening.
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Hopefully so Jon. It looks like the south eastern part of the Island took
the brunt with the latest death toll now at 2.5 thousand for Sri Lanka, with
an overall count and still rising of 6000. I think it's only natural to be
that bit more concerned about people you sort off...well know I guess. It's
such a tradgedy for the very poor folk that live there. All though the
figures at present seem low compared with previous disasters it was still an
awful event and very sobering to say the least.





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Jon, does anyone here have any contact with Joe outside of this group?


Yes, a few, Lawrence. I will check to see when Joe was due back
from Sri Lanka. AFAIK he and his family were on the western side so
should've escaped the worst of the effects.

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The following is a link to the discussion about this... horrifying ! My
thoughts are with all affected even though there's absolutely nothing
that could have been done about it !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4125619.stm


What makes it impossible to comprehend is the scope of it.

I remember the disaster of that car ferry that overturned due to the
pressure put on the crew by the work practices. They set out with the
bow open and the influx turned the boat over in port.

Half out of the water on its side; the death toll could have beeen a lot
worse.

A long time later I was working with someone who friends were involved
in the recovery of the wreck. He told me of the difficulty they had in
getting some of the bodies out. One man had struggled to climb into a
cupboard in the kitchen, trying to breathe, looking for an air pocket.

They had to cut him apart to free him.

Just now I saw a bus drifting just below the surface of the water -who
knows where. And it got the message home with the memory of that
anecdote.

Someone lost a child a father a family a .....

Christ help them.


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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 09:52:11 +0000 (UTC), Michael Mcneil wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4125619.stm


What makes it impossible to comprehend is the scope of it.


Try the 5 min report report from the mother on an island. That gives a
very good impression, she describes the retreat of the water before
each wave exposing the coral with the fish flapping about on it. Of
the family clinging to trees as each wave crashed through, not knowing
if they had seen the worst or how many more waves were to come...

Lets hope that this event triggers the countries surrounding the
Indian Ocean that Tsunami warning system might be good idea. Might not
have been much good for Thailand or Malayisa (not enough time) but
it's a different story for India, Sri Lanka and the East African
coast.

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.com...
Lets hope that this event triggers the countries surrounding the
Indian Ocean that Tsunami warning system might be good idea. Might not
have been much good for Thailand or Malayisa (not enough time) but
it's a different story for India, Sri Lanka and the East African
coast.

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Not wishing to cause alarm, but isn't it just as likely to have a tsunami
in the Atlantic as it is in the Indian ocean.
And do we have an early warning system?
Some people are critisising the lack of a warning system in this disaster -
but surely they should look closer to home.
I wonder if there is any news on Joe Hunt and his family? I truely hope they
are ok.

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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:39:26 -0000, Alex Stephens Jr wrote in

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I wonder if there is any news on Joe Hunt and his family? I truely hope they
are ok.


Yes they are fine Alex, but it seems as if it was a close run thing as
water poured into their hotel. He has sent some amazing photos of the area
nearby.

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Alex Stephens Jr wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.com...

Lets hope that this event triggers the countries surrounding the
Indian Ocean that Tsunami warning system might be good idea. Might not
have been much good for Thailand or Malayisa (not enough time) but
it's a different story for India, Sri Lanka and the East African
coast.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




Not wishing to cause alarm, but isn't it just as likely to have a tsunami
in the Atlantic as it is in the Indian ocean.
And do we have an early warning system?
Some people are critisising the lack of a warning system in this disaster -
but surely they should look closer to home.
I wonder if there is any news on Joe Hunt and his family? I truely hope they
are ok.

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Alex Stephens Jr
Wishaw, North Lanarkshire, Scotland
N55บ47'14", W3บ55'15". 360ft/117m amsl
http://www.alex114.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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Isn't there a volcano on one of the canary islands that has a good
probability of collapsing into the atlantic and causing a tsunami?

Joe
Wolverhampton


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Isn't there a volcano on one of the canary islands that has a good
probability of collapsing into the atlantic and causing a tsunami?

Joe
Wolverhampton

I am sure you are correct and I think that the island is La Palma. Some of
the land has already slipped in the past but by only a relatively short
distance. I found this link
http://www.drgeorgepc.com/TsunamiMegaEvaluation.html
which contains more information.

Alan



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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:39:26 -0000, Alex Stephens Jr wrote:

Not wishing to cause alarm, but isn't it just as likely to have a
tsunami in the Atlantic as it is in the Indian ocean.


Donno to be honest but the mid Atlantic rift is a spreading zone not a
subduction or sliding one. It's the latter areas that give rise to the
large earthquakes required to trigger tsunamis.

Any coast is at some risk from tsunamis but as always it's is a
balance between risk and early warning. Those areas surrounding
oceans/seas that contain significant undersea tectonic activity are at
the most risk, like the Indian and Pacific Oceans.

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