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Met office forecasting a colder then normal winter
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne...s/2005/09/18/n chill18.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/09/18/ixnewstop.html http://tinyurl.com/cbce5 -- -- zaax |
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Didn't someone on here only the other day say that the MO were predicting a
mild winter, even though they expected a negative NAO??? Shaun Pudwell. "zaax" wrote in message ... Met office forecasting a colder then normal winter http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne...s/2005/09/18/n chill18.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/09/18/ixnewstop.html http://tinyurl.com/cbce5 -- -- zaax |
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"Shaun Pudwell" wrote in message
... Didn't someone on here only the other day say that the MO were predicting a mild winter, even though they expected a negative NAO??? Shaun Pudwell. "zaax" wrote in message ... Met office forecasting a colder then normal winter http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne...s/2005/09/18/n chill18.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/09/18/ixnewstop.html http://tinyurl.com/cbce5 -- -- zaax They a http://www.meto.gov.uk/research/seas.../headline.html and that link from the NAO page has been available for a few weeks now. The ST's article, IMO, is just yet another example of the increasingly sloppy journalism that is affecting it and its Daily equivalent over the last few years. Once, they had a proper science correspondent who may have taken the trouble to do 5 mins of his own research on the web and have found the NAO article and the updated link to the newer forecast. The NAO statistical forecast, has IIRC, been available since July, so it is hardly 'news' now. Probably 'leaked' or even sold to the ST from an organisation who has since received an updated forecast based on the later information. -- Pete Please take my dog out twice to e-mail --------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed above are entirely those of the writer and do not represent the views, policy or understanding of any other person or official body. --------------------------------------------------------------- |
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I'm a little confused (comes with my age g).
I was led to beleive that forcasts of a coming colder winter were partly based on there being an active hurricane season the previous summer. Although I haven't looked at all years and this year we are upto 19 named storms but, looking back at those infamous winters of 47, 63 and 87 (south uk) the prvious hurricane seasons only produced (1946)6, (1962)5 & (1986)6 named storms. Now I wouldn't call that active! Have I missed something? Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net Shaun Pudwell wrote: Didn't someone on here only the other day say that the MO were predicting a mild winter, even though they expected a negative NAO??? Shaun Pudwell. "zaax" wrote in message ... Met office forecasting a colder then normal winter http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne...s/2005/09/18/n chill18.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/09/18/ixnewstop.html http://tinyurl.com/cbce5 -- -- zaax |
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Keith (Southend)G wrote:
I'm a little confused (comes with my age g). I was led to beleive that forcasts of a coming colder winter were partly based on there being an active hurricane season the previous summer. snip Well, I always thought that a harsh winter was indicated by the amount of berries on bushes at this time of year. In that respect, the bushes are absolutely laden with berries now - one of the best years for blackberries that I can remember. Jonathan Canterbury |
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Met office forecasting a colder then normal winter
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne...ixnewstop.html zaax Sounds like complete guesswork nonsense and opportunistic journalism. As Graham said recently, 80% chance this winter will be warmer than normal. H. H. Lamb used the 7/10 rule, whatever the season before, the following season will be similar in terms of temperature in 7/10 cases until the cycle is broken. ________________ Nick G Exe Valley, Devon 50 m amsl |
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Just been informed, the Mirror has got a piece about the severe winter
to come in today's edition I was expecting this during October. It's a huge risk with implications putting out this kind of stuff, i dunno if the media have 'over-sensationalised' like they did last year, but the people i've spoken to today after reading the articles, told me they didn't believe it. They thought it was fear mongering It doesn't matter where the info comes from. Cry Wolf too many times, and people will not believe it It seems that it's hard enough getting the next seven days forecasting accurate, so i dunno about anyone else, i'm not dedicating too much time getting angry or thinking about what anyone says what the weather will be doing in many many weeks time. Slight grin on my face with a... "ohhh is that so?" |
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Having now read the Telegraph article, yeah it smacks of fear/doom
mongering Way OTT headline. I was looking for the reasons behind this, and the only hint the telegraph article drops is: "Considering we have had a run of fairly mild winters......." Is that it? Dear 'o dear |
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In message . com,
BlueLightning writes Having now read the Telegraph article, yeah it smacks of fear/doom mongering Way OTT headline. I was looking for the reasons behind this, and the only hint the telegraph article drops is: "Considering we have had a run of fairly mild winters......." Is that it? I was told about the Sunday Telegraph report by a normally intelligent friend. The Office was forecasting heavy snow throughout December! I did not realise that the Office were daft enough to issue a forecast for the winter this far ahead. On what do they base this prediction? It seems so unlikely after so many mild winters. We have in fact had a run of 'Mild' winters. With some very mild spells. Would someone like Will Hand be good enough to give me an explanation why such a wild forecast has been issued so early? What is the mechanism where the Office can be so mis-represented. Unless of course they were serious which I doubt. Cheers Paul -- 'Wisest are they that know they do not know.' Socrates. Paul Bartlett FRMetS www.rutnet.co.uk Go to local weather |
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Paul Bartlett wrote:
In message . com, BlueLightning writes Having now read the Telegraph article, yeah it smacks of fear/doom mongering Way OTT headline. I was looking for the reasons behind this, and the only hint the telegraph article drops is: "Considering we have had a run of fairly mild winters......." Is that it? I was told about the Sunday Telegraph report by a normally intelligent friend. The Office was forecasting heavy snow throughout December! I did not realise that the Office were daft enough to issue a forecast for the winter this far ahead. On what do they base this prediction? It seems so unlikely after so many mild winters. We have in fact had a run of 'Mild' winters. With some very mild spells. Would someone like Will Hand be good enough to give me an explanation why such a wild forecast has been issued so early? What is the mechanism where the Office can be so mis-represented. Unless of course they were serious which I doubt. Cheers Paul Puzzled by this change in the winter ' forecast'....only this morning I was looking at this page... http://www.meto.gov.uk/research/seas.../headline.html I can only assume that later 'information' has resulted in the complete reversal which appeared in some of the media this morning..and which Paul Hudson featured on 'Look North' this evening. John -- York, North Yorkshire. (c.20 metre AMSL) |
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