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With a few days to go, the running mean for December at this site is a
whopping 5.1บC. Easily the mildest December on my records (began 1994). And
I believe the mildest since 1989. It's approximately 2บC above the long term
mean here.
The average max is 7.8บC (+1.7บC), and the average min. is 2.3บC (+2.3บC).

A quick glance at Philip Eden's site shows that the South East of England is
running pretty near the LTA, but the anomally shown for Central Scotland (of
+1บC) is rather different from the story I've recorded thus far.

How many in the south are actually recording a colder than average month to
this point?
Alex.

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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
...
With a few days to go, the running mean for December at this site is
a whopping 5.1บC. Easily the mildest December on my records (began
1994). And I believe the mildest since 1989. It's approximately 2บC
above the long term mean here.
The average max is 7.8บC (+1.7บC), and the average min. is 2.3บC
(+2.3บC).

A quick glance at Philip Eden's site shows that the South East of
England is running pretty near the LTA, but the anomally shown for
Central Scotland (of +1บC) is rather different from the story I've
recorded thus far.

How many in the south are actually recording a colder than average
month to this point?


BRACKNELL (TAWFIELD)
... as of the 09Z ob this morning (27th), our 24hr anomaly (i.e. using
the mean of the 24hr max and 24hr min) is MINUS 0.3degC; however, it is
only in the past few days that it has been consistently negative.

Martin.


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"Martin Rowley" wrote in
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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
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How many in the south are actually recording a colder than average
month to this point?


BRACKNELL (TAWFIELD)
.. as of the 09Z ob this morning (27th), our 24hr anomaly (i.e. using
the mean of the 24hr max and 24hr min) is MINUS 0.3degC; however, it is
only in the past few days that it has been consistently negative.


Cold? You don't know the meaning of cold!!

I remember when I was a child and we lived in a shoebox at the side of
the road....

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+0.2 so far in Penzance. (compared to 1971-2000 LTA)

In fact, since 1991 only in 4 years (1994, 1998, 2001 & 2003) has Decmber
been warmer.

No E or NE periods, so nothing really cold here. Still waiting for the 1st
frost. Max 8.3 yesterday.

With a few days to go, the running mean for December at this site is a
whopping 5.1บC. Easily the mildest December on my records (began 1994).
And I believe the mildest since 1989. It's approximately 2บC above the
long term mean here.
The average max is 7.8บC (+1.7บC), and the average min. is 2.3บC (+2.3บC).

A quick glance at Philip Eden's site shows that the South East of England
is running pretty near the LTA, but the anomally shown for Central
Scotland (of +1บC) is rather different from the story I've recorded thus
far.

How many in the south are actually recording a colder than average month
to this point?
Alex.

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Alex Stephens Jr
Wishaw, North Lanarkshire, Scotland
N55บ47'14", W3บ55'15". 360ft/117m amsl
http://www.alex114.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
...
With a few days to go, the running mean for December at this site is a
whopping 5.1บC. Easily the mildest December on my records (began 1994).
And I believe the mildest since 1989. It's approximately 2บC above the
long term mean here.
The average max is 7.8บC (+1.7บC), and the average min. is 2.3บC (+2.3บC).

A quick glance at Philip Eden's site shows that the South East of England
is running pretty near the LTA, but the anomally shown for Central
Scotland (of +1บC) is rather different from the story I've recorded thus
far.

How many in the south are actually recording a colder than average month
to this point?
Alex.

December in St Albans is currently 0.4ฐC a above the Rothampstead
(Harpenden) 1971-2000 LTA.

Alan




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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
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With a few days to go, the running mean for December at this site is

a
whopping 5.1บC. Easily the mildest December on my records (began

1994). And
I believe the mildest since 1989. It's approximately 2บC above the

long term
mean here.
The average max is 7.8บC (+1.7บC), and the average min. is 2.3บC

(+2.3บC).

A quick glance at Philip Eden's site shows that the South East of

England is
running pretty near the LTA, but the anomally shown for Central

Scotland (of
+1บC) is rather different from the story I've recorded thus far.

How many in the south are actually recording a colder than average

month to
this point?
Alex.


Hi, Alex,
Don't know quite where you draw the line for the south, but Copley
figures are showing a sunny, dry and mild month. (1971-2000 av)

Mean max 6.7C (+1.0C)
Mean min 0.6C (+0.1C)
Mean 3.6C (+0.5C)

Rain 25.4mm (31%)

Sunshine 77.2hr (161%)

Keep those westerlies going for the sun tan!

ATB,

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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 08:51:44 -0000, Alex Stephens Jr wrote in


With a few days to go, the running mean for December at this site is a
whopping 5.1บC. Easily the mildest December on my records (began 1994). And
I believe the mildest since 1989. It's approximately 2บC above the long term
mean here.
The average max is 7.8บC (+1.7บC), and the average min. is 2.3บC (+2.3บC).


The figures for Malin Head are similar to yours, Alex. The mean air temp so
far is +7.7C which is 1.4C above the mean. The 10cm soil temp is 1.8C
above mean at 7.1C. Rainfall is already at 114mm compared with the mean of
103mm.

Source:

http://www.met.ie/recentweather/monthlydata.asp?Num=80

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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
...
With a few days to go, the running mean for December at this site is a
whopping 5.1บC. Easily the mildest December on my records (began 1994).
And I believe the mildest since 1989. It's approximately 2บC above the
long term mean here.
The average max is 7.8บC (+1.7บC), and the average min. is 2.3บC (+2.3บC).

Alex, have you devised a local 30-year average, or are you comparing
with 1994-2003? If the latter, you should be aware that the 1994-2003
mean for December is roughly 0.2 to 0.5 degC *lower* than the
1971-2000 mean. So your positive anomaly will be that much bigger.
My figures also take account of the fact that the long-term mean for
1st-25th is 0.1-0.2 degC higher than that for the whole month.

Philip Eden

Philip Eden


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"Michael Mcneil" . wrote in message .

" Cold? You don't know the meaning of cold!!

I remember when I was a child and we lived in a shoebox at the side of
the road...."

You were lucky.........

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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
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Alex, have you devised a local 30-year average, or are you comparing
with 1994-2003? If the latter, you should be aware that the 1994-2003
mean for December is roughly 0.2 to 0.5 degC *lower* than the
1971-2000 mean. Philip Eden

Philip,

Yes, after reading your post I've just checked and over the last 10 years
December is the only month significantly colder than the 1971-2000 norm, 0.4
degrees colder here. Another feature of the last 10 years or so has been the
dryness of March.




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