? for everyone what causes the counter clockwise rotation of HURRICANE?
Another ? has science ever tried to stop or slow down a ? for everyone
what causes the counter clockwise rotation of HURRICANE?hurrican.
and finally Is the rotation in the southern Hemisphere the same as the
northern?
leonard

Leonard,

The counter clockwise rotation is caused by movement over a rotating
body: The so called Coriolis acceleration. On the Northern
hemisphere the rotation around a low pressure area (and also a
hurricane) is the same as if one looks to the Earth from above the
North pole.

The same reasoning holds for the Southern hemisphere. This implies
that the rotation is clockwise around a low pressure area over there.

And: Stopping that would require stopping the rotation of the Earth
... although hurricanes can be damaging ... stopping the rotation
would be a lot worse ... :-) (Apart from the fact that we are not
able to deliver such a feat.)

Mazzel & broge / kind regards, Evert Wesker
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://come.to/wesker (redirect URL, no adv's), or
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/

Evert Wesker wrote:
Leonard,

The counter clockwise rotation is caused by movement over a rotating
body: The so called Coriolis acceleration. On the Northern
hemisphere the rotation around a low pressure area (and also a
hurricane) is the same as if one looks to the Earth from above the
North pole.

The same reasoning holds for the Southern hemisphere. This implies
that the rotation is clockwise around a low pressure area over there.

And: Stopping that would require stopping the rotation of the Earth
.. although hurricanes can be damaging ... stopping the rotation
would be a lot worse ... :-) (Apart from the fact that we are not
able to deliver such a feat.)

In one of my more (less?) lucid mad scientist moments, I came up with a
scheme to mount huge rocket motors at the north and south poles, and use
them to make the Earth tumble chaotically. I would then make (lays
little finger aside lower lip) One ~Million~ Dollars selling motion
sickness pills and predictions of when, where, or if the sun would rise
in any particular location...

Bwuhahaha!

Oh...

If yoy are at the top of either of the two poles,where does the sun
rise?
In space,there is no N.S.E.W.
East is only what we perceive it to be.
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Hub, be reasonable, we don't live on either pole, neither do we
find hurricanes at either pole, they are called tropical, because they
lurk in tropical waters.
If you step one foot away from either pole east is east and west is
west. although your traveling in a circle.
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So you think that the earths rotation that causes wind currents has no
effect on weather.How about solar storms?
How about moon phases?
==================================
That is not what I am saying, Of course the Sun and the moon cause
high tide and low tide, associated with the Earths rotation,
Hurricane's rotation has nothing to do with hi tide and low tide,
the energy ia hurricanes, results from vapor rising, in the warm water
of the tropics. warm moisture is steered by the angle and direction of
the sun and its position either north or South of the equator.
September is a bad month for hurricanes in the Northern hemisphere
because the angle, on the curvature of the earth is lesser on the north
side, than when it shines directly down in July and August. when both
the north side and the south side are warmed, more equally.
March is a bad month for hurricanes in the Southern hemisphere, for
the same reasons.
God bless lenny

? for everyone what causes the counter clockwise rotation Hub

It's my understanding that the whiz kids are up all nite trying to
reverse the Earth's rotation so the hurricanes will spin around Africa
and destroy our enemies.
Leonard you need to see your doctor and change your meds.
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************Hub I don't believe the earths
rotation, establishes the direction of rotation in a hurricane, as most
scientists believe,
**********IF it did, the rotation in the north would
be the same as rotation in the south. because the southern hemisphere,
rotates the same direction as the Northern hemisphere, west to east.
******The sun rises in the east , in Australia, just like it
does in the US.
********Yet in Australia hurricanes rotate clockwise and
in the North Atlantic and Pacific they rotate counter clockwise?
********What then establishes the direction of rotation
in a hurricane, if it is not the earths rotation?
************I have pondered the problem, and
believe the angle of the sun, relative to the round shape of the Earth
establishes the direction of rotation.
*********American's hurricane season, especially in
September, when the angle is right, the Sun rises in the East, warms the
east side of a tropical depression, causing a high pressure on the east
side, as the Sun moves westward, The south side of the hurricane is
warmed more than the North side because the angle of the Sun, shines
more directly on the South.
********The warm air, on the east side traveling north
cools, causing more rain this creates a low pressure. on the east and
north side.
********As the Sun moves to the west, the west side of
the hurricane, is warmed, creating another high pressure, however before
the western high pressure can slow the rotation, the Sun Sets and the
high is rapidly cooled.
***********Then a new day is born, and another
High pressure is created on the east side, then moving to the south
side, increasing the rotation as the warm air cools as it moves away
from the Sun creating another low, and dumping moisture.
**********In the Southern hemisphere, the angel of
the sun creates an opposite rotation,
**********Consider it as 2 gears meshed together,
They always rotate in opposite directions, a force from the east will
cause this reaction whether it is applied in the Northern hemisphere or
the Southern Hemisphere.
************The force from the east, pushes the
east side of the Vortex. toward the polls, to the left in the north and
to the Right in the South.
************There have been unsuccessful,
efforts to seed hurricanes in an effort to diminish their destructive
force, however it is not clear if this was done in the propper way.
**********If the seeding was done, at night on the
South side of the hurricane, a low pressure might be created. slowing
the rotation.
************The rain fall would be neer the
same,
however the destructive wind, tides, and storm surge would be reduced.
if it works.
************A massive effort may be expensive,
however, nothing compared to the great property damage, and loss of life
we now contend with.
********************Leonard

Without the coriolis-effect ( or Coriolis-force ) no low-pressure area
could sustain itself for very long ...

http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary...is_effect.html



Op Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:12:26 -0500 (CDT) schreef
(Leonard Abbott):

? for everyone what causes the counter clockwise rotation Hub

It's my understanding that the whiz kids are up all nite trying to
reverse the Earth's rotation so the hurricanes will spin around Africa
and destroy our enemies.
Leonard you need to see your doctor and change your meds.
=================================
************Hub I don't believe the earths
rotation, establishes the direction of rotation in a hurricane, as most
scientists believe,
**********IF it did, the rotation in the north would
be the same as rotation in the south. because the southern hemisphere,
rotates the same direction as the Northern hemisphere, west to east.
******The sun rises in the east , in Australia, just like it
does in the US.
********Yet in Australia hurricanes rotate clockwise and
in the North Atlantic and Pacific they rotate counter clockwise?
********What then establishes the direction of rotation
in a hurricane, if it is not the earths rotation?
************I have pondered the problem, and
believe the angle of the sun, relative to the round shape of the Earth
establishes the direction of rotation.
*********American's hurricane season, especially in
September, when the angle is right, the Sun rises in the East, warms the
east side of a tropical depression, causing a high pressure on the east
side, as the Sun moves westward, The south side of the hurricane is
warmed more than the North side because the angle of the Sun, shines
more directly on the South.
********The warm air, on the east side traveling north
cools, causing more rain this creates a low pressure. on the east and
north side.
********As the Sun moves to the west, the west side of
the hurricane, is warmed, creating another high pressure, however before
the western high pressure can slow the rotation, the Sun Sets and the
high is rapidly cooled.
***********Then a new day is born, and another
High pressure is created on the east side, then moving to the south
side, increasing the rotation as the warm air cools as it moves away
from the Sun creating another low, and dumping moisture.
**********In the Southern hemisphere, the angel of
the sun creates an opposite rotation,
**********Consider it as 2 gears meshed together,
They always rotate in opposite directions, a force from the east will
cause this reaction whether it is applied in the Northern hemisphere or
the Southern Hemisphere.
************The force from the east, pushes the
east side of the Vortex. toward the polls, to the left in the north and
to the Right in the South.
************There have been unsuccessful,
efforts to seed hurricanes in an effort to diminish their destructive
force, however it is not clear if this was done in the propper way.
**********If the seeding was done, at night on the
South side of the hurricane, a low pressure might be created. slowing
the rotation.
************The rain fall would be neer the
same,
however the destructive wind, tides, and storm surge would be reduced.
if it works.
************A massive effort may be expensive,
however, nothing compared to the great property damage, and loss of life
we now contend with.
********************Leonard

*Bob Grumpy
********Because of the humanaterian ramifications, I
ask, for you to give this concept carefull consideration. Billions in
property loss and thousands of lives can be saved. if we find a way to
slow hurricans.
********I understand it is an up hill fight, because,
new Ideas are never recieved favorably, especially among those learned
on the subject. sometimes it takes fresh People and new Ideas from
outside, the norm, to start new debate.
**********The concept is not hard to understand.
and makes more sence than, the ''corilis force'' theory. * * For new
readers, the concept is this.
The Sun rises in the East heates the cloweds on the East side of a
hurricane, creating a high pressure, the sun sets in th west, alowing
clowds on the western side to cool creating a low pressure.
************The high on the eastern side lasts
longer because the south side is warmed,
as the sun moves to the west.pushing the eastern high to the north,
creating a counter clockwise rotation,
**********Rain falling on the north side, creates a
low, that increases the counter clockwise rotation, by drawing the high
on the south and east to the north.
************Once the rotation is established,
the Hurricane, feeds itself from warm moisture rising from the ocean.
**********In my view the best way to stop a
hurricane is to never allow it to form.
********By seeding the clowds on the South side of a
tropical depression, a low pressure can be created, neturalizing the
posability of rotation because the southern low is equil to the northern
low.
leonard

Go back and look at Lou's photo, the side of the hurricane away from
the Sun is almost twice as large on the sunny side.
IF the Sun or lack of sun can cause this great difference in size,
while the hurricane rotates, it is reasonable to conclude the sun could
also cause the rotation.
This is visible evidence, Coriolis factor, is never dectable, and
will always be theory.
Another factor to consider is, the neerness to the equator, where
Hurricanes form, they never form on the Equator but rather 10 to 20
degrees above or below the Equator.
This is strong evidence, Rotation of the Earth is not the main
factor, but rather Sun's position and relative angle to the north and
south side of the hurricane, is what causes rotation of the storm.
IF Coriolis force was involved, it appears to me, it would be
present at the Equator where the water is the warmest.
I believe if Coriolis had satellite photos, or any real science,
his theory would have been quite different.
leonard

With this line of reasoning, all hurricanes should disappear at night
and reform during the day.

Dude, with analysis such as this, WeatherSage needs you on her crack
astrometeorology staff!


On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:59:36 -0500 (CDT),
(Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Go back and look at Lou's photo, the side of the hurricane away from
the Sun is almost twice as large on the sunny side.
IF the Sun or lack of sun can cause this great difference in size,
while the hurricane rotates, it is reasonable to conclude the sun could
also cause the rotation.
This is visible evidence, Coriolis factor, is never dectable, and
will always be theory.
Another factor to consider is, the neerness to the equator, where
Hurricanes form, they never form on the Equator but rather 10 to 20
degrees above or below the Equator.
This is strong evidence, Rotation of the Earth is not the main
factor, but rather Sun's position and relative angle to the north and
south side of the hurricane, is what causes rotation of the storm.
IF Coriolis force was involved, it appears to me, it would be
present at the Equator where the water is the warmest.
I believe if Coriolis had satellite photos, or any real science,
his theory would have been quite different.
leonard

Hi Your Highness
Hurricanes would disappear at night if the night lasted longer, It
takes several hours for a high and low to merge, we can see this in all
weather patterns.
Unfortunately night lasts only 12 hours, the sun rises, in the
East, giving the South and south east side, of a hurricane a new burst
of energy.
It is this pulsating over a period of several days that gives the
Storm it's rotation.
It is the great distance between the wet side and the dry side,
that prolongs the process,
leonard