I watched large areas of clear skis, suddenly have large paths of
clouds on radar. Nothing I can remember from weather science
explains this. Where did they just suddenly appear from?
I've seen this a few time throughout the year. But have no idea
why it happens.
Large body of water, water condenses. Clouds form as they
eventually come over land as moisture forms into rain and storms.
Larger clouds aren't suppose to appear from almost nowhere, or at least
I didn't think they were suppose to.

Anyone have any ideas?

Fievel. (Everything I ever learned about whether is becoming garbage.)

Could be chaff from military aircraft.
If the echos appeared at, near or down wind of a military range, that
would be my guess.

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 23:46:16 -0400, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A
CT'er\)" wrote:

I watched large areas of clear skis, suddenly have large paths of
clouds on radar. Nothing I can remember from weather science
explains this. Where did they just suddenly appear from?
I've seen this a few time throughout the year. But have no idea
why it happens.
Large body of water, water condenses. Clouds form as they
eventually come over land as moisture forms into rain and storms.
Larger clouds aren't suppose to appear from almost nowhere, or at least
I didn't think they were suppose to.

Anyone have any ideas?

Fievel. (Everything I ever learned about whether is becoming garbage.)

On Sep 7, 4:46*am, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:

I watched large areas of clear skis, suddenly have large paths of
clouds on radar. Nothing I can remember from weather science
explains this. Where did they just suddenly appear from?

I've seen this a few time throughout the year. But have no idea
why it happens.

OK so far.

Large body of water, water condenses. Clouds form as they
eventually come over land as moisture forms into rain and storms.

Say what?

Larger clouds aren't suppose to appear from almost nowhere, or at least
I didn't think they were suppose to.

Anyone have any ideas?

Fievel. *(Everything I ever learned about weather is becoming garbage.)

It would help if we knew where you were talking about.

Water evaporates from a large body of water and condenses over the
brow of an hill as is the case with North American weather where
everything from the Pacific hits the Rockies before rectifying itself
over the plains.

That's why they get arid zonas.

It's much the same in Europe. The UK is a microcosm of North America.

Would the times of the lunar phases of these other occasions coincide
with that for the last occasion?
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 4:46 am, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:

I watched large areas of clear skis, suddenly have large paths of
clouds on radar. Nothing I can remember from weather science
explains this. Where did they just suddenly appear from?

I've seen this a few time throughout the year. But have no idea
why it happens.

OK so far.

Large body of water, water condenses. Clouds form as they
eventually come over land as moisture forms into rain and storms.

Say what?

Larger clouds aren't suppose to appear from almost nowhere, or at least
I didn't think they were suppose to.

Anyone have any ideas?

Fievel. (Everything I ever learned about weather is becoming garbage.)

It would help if we knew where you were talking about.

Water evaporates from a large body of water and condenses over the
brow of an hill as is the case with North American weather where
everything from the Pacific hits the Rockies before rectifying itself
over the plains.

That's why they get arid zonas.

It's much the same in Europe. The UK is a microcosm of North America.

Would the times of the lunar phases of these other occasions coincide
with that for the last occasion?
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

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Oops, I guess I should have posted this,,..
http://ravingraichu.googlegroups.com...F_g bYyt_SIK4
saved it from noaa weather data.. There was nothing there, then these spot
just sort of appeared..

Errors?

Fievel.

Looks like most of it is ground clutter.
Roger
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Oops, I guess I should have posted this,,..
http://ravingraichu.googlegroups.com...F_g bYyt_SIK4
saved it from noaa weather data.. There was nothing there, then these spot
just sort of appeared..

Errors?

Fievel.

On Sep 7, 5:27*pm, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 4:46 am, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"

wrote:

I watched large areas of clear skis, suddenly have large paths of
clouds on radar. Nothing I can remember from weather science
explains this. Where did they just suddenly appear from?

I've seen this a few time throughout the year. But have no idea
why it happens.

OK so far.

Large body of water, water condenses. Clouds form as they
eventually come over land as moisture forms into rain and storms.

Say what?

Larger clouds aren't suppose to appear from almost nowhere, or at least
I didn't think they were suppose to.

Anyone have any ideas?

Fievel. (Everything I ever learned about weather is becoming garbage.)

It would help if we knew where you were talking about.

Water evaporates from a large body of water and condenses over the
brow of an hill as is the case with North American weather where
everything from the Pacific hits the Rockies before rectifying itself
over the plains.

That's why they get arid zonas.

It's much the same in Europe. The UK is a microcosm of North America.

Would the times of the lunar phases of these other occasions coincide
with that for the last occasion?
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

Oops, I guess I should have posted this,,..http://ravingraichu.googlegroups.com...if?hl=en&gsc=5...
saved it from noaa weather data.. There was nothing there, then these spot
just sort of appeared..

Errors?

What does the legend indicate? Assumed heights? But not in minus
figures surely?
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...me=00&Type=pnm
indicates a col. The 1016 mb lines in particular indicate that there
is a lot of vorticity or inversion so maybe it was mist.

What is the matter with your news reader? It should be putting those
chevrons in to indicate who's post is who's.

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 5:27 pm, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 4:46 am, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"

wrote:

I watched large areas of clear skis, suddenly have large paths of
clouds on radar. Nothing I can remember from weather science
explains this. Where did they just suddenly appear from?

I've seen this a few time throughout the year. But have no idea
why it happens.

OK so far.

Large body of water, water condenses. Clouds form as they
eventually come over land as moisture forms into rain and storms.

Say what?

Larger clouds aren't suppose to appear from almost nowhere, or at least
I didn't think they were suppose to.

Anyone have any ideas?

Fievel. (Everything I ever learned about weather is becoming garbage.)

It would help if we knew where you were talking about.

Water evaporates from a large body of water and condenses over the
brow of an hill as is the case with North American weather where
everything from the Pacific hits the Rockies before rectifying itself
over the plains.

That's why they get arid zonas.

It's much the same in Europe. The UK is a microcosm of North America.

Would the times of the lunar phases of these other occasions coincide
with that for the last occasion?
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

Oops, I guess I should have posted
this,,..http://ravingraichu.googlegroups.com...if?hl=en&gsc=5...
saved it from noaa weather data.. There was nothing there, then these spot
just sort of appeared..

Errors?

What does the legend indicate? Assumed heights? But not in minus
figures surely?
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...me=00&Type=pnm
indicates a col. The 1016 mb lines in particular indicate that there
is a lot of vorticity or inversion so maybe it was mist.

What is the matter with your news reader? It should be putting those
chevrons in to indicate who's post is who's.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Mist,,.. Yeah, that does seem right. We do have much better equipment
then we had at one time.
Interesting question to ask..
Is that steam from the underwater volcano in California?
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?r...111&loo p=yes

btw, outlook express sucks. I've just not felt like downloading thunderbird,
since that
the bill is over due, and have no idea how my roommate and I are going to
pay it.

I just hope it won't be long till we can get Verizon. we'd like to get FIOS,
but they
haven't run the glass through our area yet.

Fievel.

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT), Weatherlawyer

What does the legend indicate? Assumed heights? But not in minus
figures surely?
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...me=00&Type=pnm
indicates a col. The 1016 mb lines in particular indicate that there
is a lot of vorticity or inversion so maybe it was mist.

How is it that the 1016 mb line indicates vorticity... be it positive
or negative?

An inversion, if strong enough, will enhance the presence of ground
clutter on a radar due to rf ducting.

As far as mist, fog, drizzle or any other weather was present, you
would need to see the local weather observations at the time.

Roger

On Sep 8, 1:06*am, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:

Mist,,.. Yeah, that does seem right. We do have much better equipment
then we had at one time.
Interesting question to ask..
Is that steam from the underwater volcano in California?

No ground mist seems to come out the ground. It is one beautiful thing
to watch develop. Well worth biking out to a field or farm to see if
the spell is right for it.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?r...overlay=111011....

btw, outlook express sucks. I've just not felt like downloading thunderbird,
since that the bill is over due, and have no idea how my roommate and I
are going to pay it.

I just hope it won't be long till we can get Verizon. we'd like to get FIOS,
but they haven't run the glass through our area yet.

You don't have to use Outlook Express. But anyway it is free. Just get
a Google email address and use that. There is a free news server in NW
USA somewhere I forget where, or search for newsreaders online.

Or are you talking about the way the ISP has you locked in? I heard
Verizon locks you into malware so think outside their box. Find out
the web address you need to get online and just type it into the
browser address bar.

A local group might show you the ropes.
http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...ew&qt_s=Search
But Comcast is a cable ISP isn't it?

***

The weather runs much like it is shown on the graphic on the top of
this page -at the moment showing the storm tracks from the tropics:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/
With another one coming in from the N Pacific through sunny Seattle.

It all ends up off Newfoundland feeding the fishes. Like the Whale
Shark it then runs across the Atlantic to Norway or Scotland almost
along the 60 degree line.

El Nino and La NIna and the inter SO clouds run south almost 45
degrees to the equator. Hard to see how that affects much up north.

Save a few of these loops up to where you can spot a change in the
weather stream:
http://weather.unisys.com/images/sat_sfc_map_loop.html

You'll find it matches the time of the phases of the moon but about a
day earlier in changing.

Some spells won't match of course otherwise someone would have
noticed. These unstable spells all have something in common though, so
see how it goes.

Put them in folders you can search through easily or it will be too
much of a pain trying to sort them. I have tried to keep a diary of
the general effects in threads named for the time of the spells.

Here's this next spell:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.g...022fd12d8b7ae#

By the way Google searches mung the links so you can't play with them
to search the site.
http://ravingraichu.googlegroups.com...F_g bYyt_SIK4

Not as bad as Microsoft but getting there.

BTW if you are on dial up you might be better going to a cyber cafe,
college or library to open heavy stuff like weather graphics. If you
are stuck I can send you some stuff, not sure it will help.

I suppose I could put a collection of graphics on a disk. It's not my
copyright but it is in the interest of education. If anyone else wants
some, ask me. My e-mail works. g~ or hot~ mail

Not that I'm really competent like that, I always manage to turn out
crockery. Gaping gaps in the files too.

On Sep 8, 1:57*am, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT), Weatherlawyer

What does the legend indicate? *Assumed heights? But not in minus
figures surely?
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...our=0&Day=0&Ru...
indicates a col. The 1016 mb lines in particular indicate that there
is a lot of vorticity or inversion so maybe it was mist.

How is it that the 1016 mb line indicates vorticity... *be it positive
or negative?

An inversion, *if strong enough, will enhance the presence of ground
clutter on a radar due to rf ducting.

As far as mist, fog, drizzle or any other weather was present, you
would need to see the local weather observations at the time.

Roger

I don't know.

When there are no storms in the tropics and no quakes spiking off
Alaska and the oceans are settled with a 1016 line the outer ring at
the coastlines, you get a packet of tornadic stuff.

Which is no more than saying:
If it ain't unsettled, it's going to be.

Nothing like this at the moment:
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam...pac_gale_0.gif
(Wants a cookie from another page first then paste it in or click from
another tab.)

Try these:
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/public/
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/dynam...atl_gale_0.gif