Copied from ne.weather to here because there really is no life in
ne.weather anymore... joseph bartlo and his pests have taken good
care of that...

To encourage a bit more life in this newsgroup, I'm going to borrow a
Wright-Weather thread and maybe it'll set off things here... or maybe
not... but anyway...

Hmm, how to choose, how to choose...

August 18, 1988 - Tornado hits Ewing and Trenton, NJ... tears a path a
mere quarter mile from my home, I personally witness the funnel
outline from my home (this storm was somewhat rain-wrapped).
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~138392

July 12, 1996 - Severe back-building thunderstorm dumps 8 inches of
rain in 4 hours. Massive local flooding takes place, mostly in my home
town of Ewing, NJ.
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271242
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271243
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271245

July 22, 1996 - A severe thunderstorm causes tornado-like tree damage
across the neighborhood in a tornado-like swath. One home ends up with
a tree across the middle. A true tornado is spawned several miles
southeast in Trenton and Hamilton.
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271268
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271269
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271271
http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/da...ado-22Jun1996/

August 14, 1999 - A heavy line of thunderstorms breaks the drought of
1999 with 3 - 5 inches of rain in 2-3 hours time. I had to drive home
through this one, but not until AFTER dropping off some coworkers in
south Trenton and then heading BACK to Ewing...
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~370711

September 23, 2003 - A line of severe thunderstorms spawned a tornado
which tore through the business district of my hometown. Although I
was asleep during this storm (resting up for my AccuWeather initial
phone interview), my mother witnessed the tornado touch down, lift,
and then touch down again. Many of the items listed in the NCDC damage
report were personally witnessed and filmed.
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~512159
http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/da...rnado-23Sep03/

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Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/


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Raymond C Martin Jr wrote:

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You've had your share of severe and tornadic storms, Ray. Closest
I've ever lived to a tornado is a safe 8 miles, but it was an F3 so
that's good for at least some bragging rights.

Top thunderstorm wind speed I've experienced was around 75 mph, but
it's sorta a cheat since it was part of Hurricane Isabel Otherwise
the top wind speed has been about 60 mph.

Lightning has been the most memorable part. I've been within 20 feet
of a strike 3 times in my life. Closest was when the bolt struck an
object less than a foot away. Most interesting was one which struck
the ground a few feet away from the car in which I was sitting; I
happened to be looking exactly toward the strike location, so the view
was great.

Meanwhile I've had an anemometer up on a tall mast (properly grounded
and all) for about 20 years and to my knowledge it has never been hit.


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September 23, 2003 - A line of severe thunderstorms spawned a tornado
which tore through the business district of my hometown. Although I
was asleep during this storm (resting up for my AccuWeather initial
phone interview),

LOL!!! You had to "rest up" for that interview? Please tell me you're
kidding. Their interview was more boring and simplistic than witnessing a
friend with a 4.0 in high school apply for a job at Burger King back when we
were 16. So glad I decided not to take a job for slave lord Joel just to
stay in State College (ended up making 5 TIMES the salary with far more
flexibility, important duties, promotions, etc..). It's really sad when PSU
students with C and nearly D averages (can't graduate with less than a C)
pass that "interview test" with flying colors. Surprising? No. The Holy
Roman Empire hath fallen. Sorry to see you part of it Ray. What the heck is
an "associate" meteorologist anyways? You either ARE a meteorologist or
you're not. Given your knowledge and what I've seen from you on these boards
Raymond, you could easily be making double/triple your salary in a far more
open and free setting without the belittling titles.


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Funny. I grew up (in the 50s and 60s) between Princeton and New Brunswick
NJ, and I don't recall ever having such severe weather, except for Hurricane
Donna in '60.

Of course, spending time in Ohio (I moved to Xenia about 18 months after the
tornados) in the late 70s-early 80s may have redefined my personal views on
severe weather. But my friends out there who were from Iowa informed me
that Ohio weather was wimpy.

Anyway, the scariest weather situation I've been in was in Oakland Maine of
all places in late June '97. Moving the kids into their camp, the weather
started getting heavy. I moved the van out from under some trees (that were
starting to drop branches around) into a nearby field and rode out the
storm.

Turns out, it was an F1 tornado. Some trees fell down on some buildings,
the power was out, etc etc. But because it was Maine, very soon bunches of
guys with chain saws were on the scene. (I think EVERYONE in Maine is
issued a chain saw when they move in.)

Scary stuff.

- Steve Stein


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Raymond C Martin Jr wrote:

Copied from ne.weather to here because there really is no life in
ne.weather anymore...

You've had your share of severe and tornadic storms, Ray. Closest
I've ever lived to a tornado is a safe 8 miles, but it was an F3 so
that's good for at least some bragging rights.

Top thunderstorm wind speed I've experienced was around 75 mph, but
it's sorta a cheat since it was part of Hurricane Isabel Otherwise
the top wind speed has been about 60 mph.

Lightning has been the most memorable part. I've been within 20 feet
of a strike 3 times in my life. Closest was when the bolt struck an
object less than a foot away. Most interesting was one which struck
the ground a few feet away from the car in which I was sitting; I
happened to be looking exactly toward the strike location, so the view
was great.

Meanwhile I've had an anemometer up on a tall mast (properly grounded
and all) for about 20 years and to my knowledge it has never been hit.

Although I haven't been quite as lucky with lightning, that does
remind me of one additional event (not sure of the exact date, but I'm
pretty sure it was in between the two June 1996 storms, June 1996 was
an amazingly stormy month), where I whitnessed lightning strike a
powerpole down the road about 1/4 mile away. I still have the piece
of the ceramic fixture which flew off due to being struck, nicely
charred on the broken edge.

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New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
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Hi Ray,

No tornadoes here (thankfully) -- I think the mountains must dampen them
somehow. But we've still had our share of scary storms.

Worst for us personally was likely in July 2002 when we took a lightning
strike here. It didn't seem like that bad a storm so I didn't shut
anything down.. wife and I were using the PC and then ***BOOM*** and
everything shut off. Lost some equipment.. we thought it was a direct
hit but in that winter, a 10' long section of bark fell off an ash tree
near the house and it never leafed out the next spring, so pretty
obvious what happened.

We also had a big tree fall only a few feet from our house once, which
was a bit sobering. But that was IIRC due to a strong wind from a cold
front in December.

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Closest "sickest thunderstorm" I've been in was one I sat out at my
boyfriend's house when I was 15, up in Maine. When we were walking home, we
came across a tree that had been struck by lightning. The man who had taken
refuge from the storm under that tree wasn't very lucky. In fact, he was
deceased. At 15, it shook me up pretty well.

Also up in Maine, I've seen strange, green cloudy skies over my mother's
house at one end of Long Lake (Naples). Then come to find out that a small
tornado was spawned and touched down midway down the lake, taking down trees
and damaging houses for a brief path along the shoreline.

Other than that, my only adventure was being out in Hurricane Gloria, which
brought down a tree that crashed through a wall of my house (my grandmother
was living here at the time, called me, and I drove through the hurricane
from 10 miles away to rescue her cat and her), destroying one room
completely, moving the chimney off its footing, cracking and rippling all of
the plaster and floors in the other rooms, and generally making one whale of
a mess. The local newspaper headline was "Tree Attacks House from
Underground," as the rootball was what crashed into the house, not the tree
itself, which landed neatly between my house and the neighbor's house!



"Raymond C Martin Jr" wrote in message
m...
Copied from ne.weather to here because there really is no life in
ne.weather anymore... joseph bartlo and his pests have taken good
care of that...

To encourage a bit more life in this newsgroup, I'm going to borrow a
Wright-Weather thread and maybe it'll set off things here... or maybe
not... but anyway...

Hmm, how to choose, how to choose...

August 18, 1988 - Tornado hits Ewing and Trenton, NJ... tears a path a
mere quarter mile from my home, I personally witness the funnel
outline from my home (this storm was somewhat rain-wrapped).
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~138392

July 12, 1996 - Severe back-building thunderstorm dumps 8 inches of
rain in 4 hours. Massive local flooding takes place, mostly in my home
town of Ewing, NJ.
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271242
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271243
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271245

July 22, 1996 - A severe thunderstorm causes tornado-like tree damage
across the neighborhood in a tornado-like swath. One home ends up with
a tree across the middle. A true tornado is spawned several miles
southeast in Trenton and Hamilton.
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271268
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271269
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~271271
http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/da...ado-22Jun1996/

August 14, 1999 - A heavy line of thunderstorms breaks the drought of
1999 with 3 - 5 inches of rain in 2-3 hours time. I had to drive home
through this one, but not until AFTER dropping off some coworkers in
south Trenton and then heading BACK to Ewing...
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~370711

September 23, 2003 - A line of severe thunderstorms spawned a tornado
which tore through the business district of my hometown. Although I
was asleep during this storm (resting up for my AccuWeather initial
phone interview), my mother witnessed the tornado touch down, lift,
and then touch down again. Many of the items listed in the NCDC damage
report were personally witnessed and filmed.
http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/ww...owEvent~512159
http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/da...rnado-23Sep03/

====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/


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Raymond C Martin Jr wrote:

Copied from ne.weather to here because there really is no life in
ne.weather anymore... joseph bartlo and his pests have taken good
care of that...

As I recall, there's a rule against posting unprovoked derogatory comments
about someone here - yet I don't know at what point a comment such as this
crossed that proverbial line.


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I witnessed the group of thundershowers which caused plenty of straight-line
wind damage from downbursts across southern Michigan the morning of July 16,
1980 (or was it the 15th?). That was the most damage I witnessed, though the
"sickest" one would probably be late morning of December 17, 2000 in Mount
Poocno. A band of warm & moist southerly flow ahead of a cold front caused
thundershowers with the period of heaviest rain I ever saw. I did not observe
exactly how much rain occurred during the heaviest period (manual gauge), but
I recall it was approximately an inch & a half during 40 minutes to an hour.
The daily amount was 3.53 inches - almost all during morning. The rain was
so heavy for awhile that water gushing down the street tore away large pieces
of asphalt. The roads has about a 20-25° grade though, and the ground under
the road is generally inconsistent - so the asphalt does tend to rip away with
snowplows, etc. The event ended with a period of light snow that evening
& early night which accumulated to .3 inches over wet ground to begin with
though with temperatures of high-mid 20's.


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Joseph Bartlo wrote:

I recall it was approximately an inch & a half during 40 minutes to an hour.
The daily amount was 3.53 inches - almost all during morning.

Here are the relevant MPO observations from that day :

KMPO 170456Z AUTO 11006KT 1/4SM FG VV001 06/06 A2985 RMK AO2 SLP123
T00560056 400561050 $
KMPO 170556Z AUTO 10007KT 1/4SM FG VV001 06/06 A2981 RMK AO2 RAB07E55
SLP109 P0006 60017 T00610061 10061 20028 58031 $
KMPO 171156Z AUTO 20008KT 4SM VCTS RA BR SCT011 BKN021 OVC036 12/12 A2956
RMK AO2 LTG DSNT E-S TSB27E45B47 SLP017 P0029 60135 7//// T01220122
10122 20061 56038 $

KMPO 171356Z AUTO 21016G22KT 1 3/4SM +RA BR FEW006 BKN010 OVC018 12/12
A2948 RMK AO2 VIS 1 1/4V3 LTG DSNT E SLP989 P0042 T01220122 $
KMPO 171456Z AUTO 25008KT 1 1/4SM +TSRA BR SCT003 BKN006 OVC010 12/12 A2943
RMK AO2 LTG DSNT ALQDS TSB33 SLP971 P0066 60137 T01170117 56043 $
KMPO 171556Z AUTO 23013G20KT 7SM -RA SCT013 BKN021 OVC029 12/12 A2937 RMK
AO2 LTG DSNT NE TSE43 SLP950 P0058 T01220122 $

KMPO 171756Z AUTO 20013KT 10SM OVC045 11/09 A2931 RMK AO2 RAB10E31 SLP929
P0000 60197 T01060094 10128 20106 56039 $
KMPO 172356Z AUTO 29014G28KT 260V330 1SM -SN BR BKN009 OVC016 M01/M01 A2928
RMK AO2 PK WND 29030/2341 SLP924 P0000 60000 T10111011 10111 21011
53004 $
KMPO 180256Z AUTO 27023G32KT 4SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC033 M06/M08 A2944 RMK AO2
PK WND 28035/0205 UPB06E20SNE06B20 SLP983 P0000 60000 T10561078 51051
$

They reported 3.38 inches of precipitation, which was .15 less than me.
The snow their gauge would not report was probably no more than .02 inches.
Note they had 1.24 inches during the hours ending at 15 & 16 Z. Most was
from the thundershower which MPO reported as beginning at 1433 Z and ending
at 1543 Z. The heaviest rain was during a brief period in the middle of
that, centered right around the 15 Z observation evidently (which is 10 AM
EST). We probably had a bit more than them during the thunderstorm, but
not much. So I think we had a rate of about 1.5 inches an hour - which
lasted for 40 minutes or so for about an inch of precipitation. Yet it
was probably briefly a 2 or maybe 3 inch an hour rate.


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