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Some earth science type questions:
I had thought that days at the equator were exactly 12 hours long all year round, but charts show varying sunrise and sunset times. How is that? When is high noon at 42 degrees north, 76 degrees west? I came up with 12 + 1/15 = 12 + 4/60 = 12:04pm EST. Does the latitude come into play at all, or is it just based on longitude? - http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8adrh/news.html (profile) --Tim923 My email is valid. |
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Tim923 wrote:
I had thought that days at the equator were exactly 12 hours long all year round, but charts show varying sunrise and sunset times. How is that? You may want to google for "Equation of Time" - a nice explanation is for instance found on http://www.astronomynotes.com/nakedeye/s9.htm. Briefly: While the average length of solar day is 24h, the actual solar day (the time between meridian passages of the Sun) varies by a few seconds in function of the season. This deviation sums up to the so called "Equation of Time" - the difference between the mean time and the time indicated by a sun dial. The latter is, for instance, about 14min 15s late at mid February, 3min 40s in advance at mid May, 6min 30s late at end of July and 16min 25s in advance at beginning of November. When is high noon at 42 degrees north, 76 degrees west? I came up with 12 + 1/15 = 12 + 4/60 = 12:04pm EST. That's only true in average - but it would be 11:47:35am around November 3, and 12:18:15pm around February 11. Does the latitude come into play at all, or is it just based on longitude? Latitude only influences at what altitude the Sun appears at high noon - at equinox, the distance Sun - zenith equals the latitude, thus you have altitude = 90°-latitude. At other seasons, you need to add the Sun's declination to this value (example: for 42° latitude, the Sun is at 48° altitude at high noon at equinox, while at summer solstice it is at 48° + 23.5° = 71.5° and at winter solstice at 48° - 23,5° = 24,5°. Falk |
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![]() "Falk Tannhäuser" wrote in message ... | Tim923 wrote: | | I had thought that days at the equator were exactly 12 hours long all | year round, but charts show varying sunrise and sunset times. How is | that? | | You may want to google for "Equation of Time" - a nice explanation is | for instance found on http://www.astronomynotes.com/nakedeye/s9.htm. | Briefly: While the average length of solar day is 24h, the actual | solar day (the time between meridian passages of the Sun) varies | by a few seconds in function of the season. This deviation sums | up to the so called "Equation of Time" - the difference between | the mean time and the time indicated by a sun dial. The latter | is, for instance, about 14min 15s late at mid February, 3min 40s | in advance at mid May, 6min 30s late at end of July and 16min 25s | in advance at beginning of November. | This is probably the smallest contribution to this effect. Also present a 1) Refraction by the earth's atmosphere. As the sun approaches the horizon, this causes its disk to appear up to a degree higher than it really is, delaying sunset and causing sunrise to be earlier. As it takes about 4 minutes for the sun to travel this amount in the sky, each day will be over 12 hours by nearly 10 minutes. 2) The angle of the sun's path in the sky. The sun only rises and sets vertically at the equator on the equinox days. At the solstices its path is inclined by about 23 degrees, which will also mean that it takes slightly longer (about a minute or so) to rise or set, because of the apparent displacement of the sun's position as in (1) above). The equation of time effect causes the sunrise and sunset times to vary either side of local 0600 and 1800 by about 15 minutes, but does not alter the interval between them, the daylength, apart from the few seconds per day the previous poster mentions when these times are shifting at their maximum rate. -- - Yokel - oo oo OOO OOO OO 0 OO ) ( I ) ( ) ( /\ ) ( "Yokel" now posts via a spam-trap account. Replace my alias with stevejudd to reply. |
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![]() "Tim923" wrote in message ... Some earth science type questions: I had thought that days at the equator were exactly 12 hours long all year round, but charts show varying sunrise and sunset times. How is that? When is high noon at 42 degrees north, 76 degrees west? I came up with 12 + 1/15 = 12 + 4/60 = 12:04pm EST. Does the latitude come into play at all, or is it just based on longitude? In addition to the factors indicated by Yokel and Falk, there is also the description at: http://www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html The earth does not rotate "true", but wobbles on its axis. |
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Hi Tim93,
I think that if you are on the equator, then there should be exactly 12 hours of daylight twice a year; during the equinoxes. I am not exactly sure about this. Smerby www.accuweather.com Tim923 wrote in message . .. Some earth science type questions: I had thought that days at the equator were exactly 12 hours long all year round, but charts show varying sunrise and sunset times. How is that? When is high noon at 42 degrees north, 76 degrees west? I came up with 12 + 1/15 = 12 + 4/60 = 12:04pm EST. Does the latitude come into play at all, or is it just based on longitude? - http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8adrh/news.html (profile) --Tim923 My email is valid. |
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