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Default Belfort Instrument Company DigiWx AWOS - Have any been commissioned by the FAA - And if so, for how long will that last?

Belfort Instrument Company DigiWx AWOS - Have any been commissioned by
the FAA - And if so, for how long will that last?

I was browsing the locations of DigiWx weather systems from Belfort's
homepage and wondered how many were actually commissioned by the FAA as
AWOS units. So I started at the beginning of the alphabet and then
started contacting the listed airports and it wasn't until I got to
letter "G" for Greenville airport that I finally found a DigiWx AWOS.
But as it turns out, there was a wicked twist.The first 9 listed
DigiWx's (A thru F) are not even AWOS units at all. Imagine that! Then
the next riveting revelation was that Belfort installed a DigiWx AWOS
at Greenville but the FAA has not yet commissioned the system. It seems
that Belfort has not yet gotten their in-house tech support manager
licensed by the FCC. I asked Greenville what happens if the tech
support manager loses his license or quits and moves on. They didn't
know. One would have to guess the AWOS would then fall out of
commission! Greenville told me that Lake in the Hills airport is in the
same boat. So I called them and inquired. Lake in the Hills has had
their DigiWx AWOS since May 2005 and it has never been commissioned by
the FAA either! How can this be? Belfort Instrument Company claims to
have their DigiWx AWOS system FAA Approved yet there are none
commissioned by the FAA in the field (after I proceeded on down the
alphabet to end with William T. Piper Memorial airport). Isn't FAA
Approval and FAA commissioning the same thing? Why would anyone want
one of these non-commissioned systems sitting around on their airport
gathering dust?

And then there is the matter of which DigiWx locations are actually
online. On the Belfort homepage, they list hyperlinks for 10 of their
weather stations:

Baltimore Marine Center (BALTM), Baltimore, Maryland
Belen Alexander Airport (E80), Belen, New Mexico
Buckeye Airport (BXK), Buckeye, Arizona
Coral Creek Airport (FA54), Placida, FL (live web cam)
Greenville Airport (GRE), Greenville, Illinois
Moriarty Airport (0E0), Moriarty, New Mexico
Ocean City Airport (26N), Ocean City, New Jersey
Sandia Airpark (1N1), Edgewood, New Mexico (live web cam)
University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center (HMIEM), Baltimore, Maryland
William T. Piper Memorial Airport (LHV), Lock Haven, Pennsylvania


Try clicking one of the hyperlinks because fully half of the hyperlinks
display "Current Data NOT available" How reliable is that? Do you want
want at your airport? One has to wonder who has been "pulling the wool"
over the eyes of those at the listed airports? At this rate, Belfort
won't celebate a 110 year anniversary or a 130 year anniversary
depending upon whom you believe when Belfort claims their company was
founded in 1876 even though Julian Friez never made it to Baltimore
until at least 1890 to set up shop! If you haven't read that thread
yet, just follow this hyperlink:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=be...an+friez&hl=en


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Default Belfort Instrument Company DigiWx AWOS - Have any been commissioned by the FAA - And if so, for how long will that last?

We were considering a DigiWx AWOS and a SuperAWOS. I was sold on DigiWx
AWOS until I started talking with DigiWx users who had the DigiWx VOICE
option including Huntington UT, Annapolis MD, Monticello UT and Ocan
City, NJ after I saw the comparison at
http://www.superawos.com/feature_comparison.htm. SuperAWOS told me I
wouldn't find any happy users and I didn't!

All four airports report DigiWx VOICE as not working greater than 90%
of the time. I did hear one user say that DigiWx had mic clicks
available. But SuperAWOS say DigiWx mic clicks is not automatically
adaptive --- only manually adaptive which means there has to be
somebody available to alter the message length on an Automated Unicom
transmission.

Considering all the other things I have been hearing about DigiWx and
the Belfort Instrument Company, I believe we will be pursuing the
SuperAWOS product instead even though it costs more. But like someone
already said, buy **** and you'll have ****! We don't want any DigiWx
turds around on our airport!

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Default Belfort Instrument Company DigiWx AWOS - Have any been commissioned by the FAA - And if so, for how long will that last?

We were considering a DigiWx AWOS and a SuperAWOS. I was sold on DigiWx
AWOS until I started talking with DigiWx users who had the DigiWx VOICE
option including Huntington UT, Annapolis MD, Monticello UT and Ocean
City, NJ after I saw the comparison at
http://www.superawos.com/feature_comparison.htm. SuperAWOS told me I
wouldn't find any happy users and I didn't!

All four airports report DigiWx VOICE as not working greater than 90%
of the time. I did hear one user say that DigiWx had mic clicks
available. But SuperAWOS say DigiWx mic clicks is not automatically
adaptive --- only manually adaptive which means there has to be
somebody available to alter the message length on an Automated Unicom
transmission.

Considering all the other things I have been hearing about DigiWx and
the Belfort Instrument Company, I believe we will be pursuing the
SuperAWOS product instead even though it costs more. But like someone
already said, buy **** and you'll have ****! We don't want any DigiWx
turds around on our airport!

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Default Belfort Instrument Company DigiWx AWOS - Have any been commissioned by the FAA - And if so, for how long will that last?

. But like someone
already said, buy **** and you'll have ****! We don't want any DigiWx
turds around on our airport!


You mean like YOU already said. Please stop replying to your own posts and
pretending to be someone else. Any idiot can trace headers and they ALL
point back to the same individual.

Initially you may have swayed people into listening to your false claims,
but you surely blew any credibility now.


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Default Belfort Instrument Company DigiWx AWOS - Have any been commissioned by the FAA - And if so, for how long will that last?

Yeah, whatever you say Mr. WxForecaster (who can't read headers)!

wxforecaster wrote:
. But like someone
already said, buy **** and you'll have ****! We don't want any DigiWx
turds around on our airport!


You mean like YOU already said. Please stop replying to your own posts and
pretending to be someone else. Any idiot can trace headers and they ALL
point back to the same individual.

Initially you may have swayed people into listening to your false claims,
but you surely blew any credibility now.


All similar fake identies:
1.) awos )
2.)
3.)

4.)

5.)


6.)

7.)



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From:
Date: 23 Dec 2005 19:56:48 -0800
Local: Fri, Dec 23 2005 10:56 pm
Subject: Scrooge: Christmas at Belfort Instruments

With everything that I have heard about Belfort, I would think people
should wonder who owns this company. Personally, I thought it was
SCROOGE. A search at
http://www.nasdaq.com revealed "No matches found"
for Belfort Instrument Inc. So the company must be privately-held.

A search at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ment+Inc+owner...

revealed:

Reissue Applications Notice - OG Date: 26 February 200226, 2001, Cl.
340/601, PORTABLE METEOROLOGICAL INFORMATION SYSTEM, Bruce R. Robinson,
Owner of Record: Belfort Instrument, Inc., Baltimore, MD, ...
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com...09/patreis.htm

Then, a search at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...on&btnG=Search
showed:

UtiliPoint International, Inc.
Bruce R. Robinson Chairman. Mr. Robinson is the senior corporate
officer Responsible for strategic planning ... Bruce R. Robinson.
Contact Bruce
Robinson ... www.utilipoint.com/team/robinson.asp with a link to
http://www.quickstrategy.com

Strategy Advisors (http://www.quickstrategy.com/advisors.jsp) include:
Mr. Robinson who has authored "Strategic Acquisitions: A Guide to
Growing and Enhancing the Value of Your Business, and QuickStrategy: A
Proven Method to Focus and Guide Your Business in Rapidly Changing
Markets."

It makes one wonder if he reads his own books! If he had, he'd know
that Belfort Instruments is in the fast lane to nowhere!



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From:
Date: 26 Dec 2005 18:29:15 -0800
Local: Mon, Dec 26 2005 9:29 pm
Subject: What is REALLY going on at Belfort Instument? Maybe this
information sheds some light on it!

When one does some researching on topics such as Belfort Instrument,
some interesting things are found! Thus, please take a look for
yourself, and see what you think! Sometimes things are different than
they would expect to appear!

Bruce R. Robinson http://www.utilipoint.com/team/robinson.asp says he
"co-owns two electronic instrument companies in addition to his
investment in UtiliPoint."

Nicholas C. Kaufman http://www.quickstrategy.com/advisors.jsp says he
"is co-owner of two small manufacturing companies."

Are Bruce R. Robinson and Nicholas C. Kaufman co-owners of the same two
companies?


http://www.belfortinstrument.com/aboutbelfort.html lists:

http://www.advancedretro.com/
http://www.udtinstruments.com/
http://www.digiwx.com

and

http://www.gamma-sci.com/


Are the Belfort Instrument Company and Gamma Scientific the two
companies that Bruce R. Robinson and Nicholas C. Kaufman co-own
together?

Did Nick read the books that Bruce authored?



And then Guest Columnist Bruce R. Robinson writes:

"Ten wrong turns to avoid on the road to success"

http://www.bizjournals.com/albuquerq...2/smallb3.html


So how many wrong turns has Belfort Instrument Company and Gamma
Scientific taken?



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