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If cherry and maple trees, butterflies, tree swallows, and Satellites
can all see global warming, why can't fossil fools? Please see:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...5KPvQD8VGOQSO4

There are good links at the bottom of this article from the AP.

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On Mar 20, 11:33*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
If cherry and maple trees, butterflies, tree swallows, and Satellites
can all see global warming, why can't fossil fools? *Please see:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...5KPvQD8VGOQSO4

There are good links at the bottom of this article from the AP.


Roger,

I guess that makes you the first cuckoo of spring.
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On Mar 20, 11:33*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
If cherry and maple trees, butterflies, tree swallows, and Satellites
can all see global warming, why can't fossil fools? *Please see:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...5KPvQD8VGOQSO4

There are good links at the bottom of this article from the AP.


This article is written by SETH BORENSTEIN, a well known AGW alarmist.

Google his name to find out about him, or read some comments he
http://www.discussglobalwarming.com/...ality-as-fact/

It would seem that the AP, through Seth Borenstein, whom we have come
to know as a man who likes to whip up some controversy with his
articles on the environment and global warming in particular, has done
it again.

Not unlike his previous articles, though, he has also exposed - at the
very least - as an exaggerator of the highest order.

It has across the board been BASHED by scientists who regard this
article as fear mongering of the worst kind. To me, it is just another
indication of just how desperate the AGW proponents are to forward
their DYING AGENDA.
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On Mar 20, 9:27 am, Mr Right wrote:
On Mar 20, 11:33 pm, Roger Coppock wrote:

If cherry and maple trees, butterflies, tree swallows, and Satellites
can all see global warming, why can't fossil fools? Please see:


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...5KPvQD8VGOQSO4


There are good links at the bottom of this article from the AP.


This article is written by SETH BORENSTEIN, a well known AGW alarmist.

Google his name to find out about him, or read some comments hehttp://www.discussglobalwarming.com/...-is-in-denial-...


Can we instead read about him from a scientific source?

It would seem that the AP, through Seth Borenstein, whom we have come
to know as a man who likes to whip up some controversy with his
articles on the environment and global warming in particular, has done
it again.


He reports on the science and the facts. Not surprising you'd dislike
him.


Not unlike his previous articles, though, he has also exposed - at the
very least - as an exaggerator of the highest order.

It has across the board been BASHED by scientists who regard this
article as fear mongering of the worst kind.


Who are they?

To me, it is just another
indication of just how desperate the AGW proponents are to forward
their DYING AGENDA.


So I assume you can find at least one scientific group which agrees
with you? Right?
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"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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If cherry and maple trees, butterflies, tree swallows, and Satellites
can all see global warming, why can't fossil fools? Please see:



Technically It's Spring, But Huge Snowstorm Coming
6 To 8 Inches Of Snow Could Fall In Some Places
Mar 20, 2008 11:10 am US/Central
CHICAGO (CBS) ? Oftentimes in Chicago, March goes in like a lion and also
out like a lion. An approaching snowstorm suggests this is one of those
times.

-----------------------------------------

Quebec children get holiday as snow piles on roofs
Reuters - Tuesday, March 18

MONTREAL - Several dozen schools were expected to remain shut this week in
the Canadian province of Quebec over fears their roofs may collapse under
the weight of near record amounts of snow, officials said on Monday.Four
people have been killed in the mainly French-speaking Canadian province of
7.6 million after roofs collapsed under the weight of accumulated snow,
though none of the incidents involved schools.

To date, some 350 centimetres of snow has fallen in the Montreal area,
approaching a record level of 383 centimetres set in 1971.







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"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
...
If cherry and maple trees, butterflies, tree swallows, and Satellites
can all see global warming, why can't fossil fools? Please see:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...5KPvQD8VGOQSO4

There are good links at the bottom of this article from the AP.


I am going to give the fools some time to figure out a real response and see if they can
before I post some thoughts.



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On Mar 21, 1:33 am, "0B0ZN" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message

...

If cherry and maple trees, butterflies, tree swallows, and Satellites
can all see global warming, why can't fossil fools? Please see:


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...5KPvQD8VGOQSO4


ROTFLMAO, another in the "BOOGA BOOGA" series!

It May Technically Be Spring, BUT .

6 To 8 Inches Of Snow Could Fall In Some Places

20 Mar 08

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/winter.....2.681254.html

Oftentimes in Chicago, March goes in like a lion and also out like a
lion. An approaching snowstorm suggests this is one of those times.

It may technically be spring, but don't put away your shovels and
scrapers yet. CBS 2 Meteorologist Steve Baskerville reports a winter
storm is inching toward the Chicago area and snow could begin
accumulating by about 2 a.m. Friday, with 1 to 2 inches accumulating by
the morning rush.

A winter storm watch is in effect for Cook and DuPage counties, areas
north of the Chicago area including Lake and McHenry counties, much of
the area west of Chicago, and parts of Northwest Indiana.

A heavy, wet snow is expected to start later Thursday night.

The storm is expected to move in from the Plains into northern Illinois
and the Chicago area. The area could see heavy snow from Thursday night
all the way through Friday night.

Totals of 6 inches are expected in many areas, with totals more severe
to the north. Along the Wisconsin border, snow totals may be as high as
8 inches. Far south in Kankakee County, only a rain-snow mix may be
seen.

During the season, 53 inches of snow has fallen in the area, and it
dipped below zero several times - making this one of the worst winters
in decades.

As CBS 2's Kristyn Hartman reports, Thursday shaped up to be a fairly
nice morning.

"It's been long and dark, and it's dragged out a long time," said Tom
Myers, who was out walking his dog.

But the mood was cooled and dampened by the looming snowstorm.

People we met at the LaGrange Metra station are sick of it all.

"My car died twice on me, I slid out of my driveway, and I hit my
neighbor's garbage can, and I broke off my side view mirror," said Erica
Brown. "It was just because it's been so cold, it just snapped."

"I had to sometimes take the buses, especially in the wintertime, going
all the way up north area. But I'll tell you one thing - it's like the
coldest winter of them all," said Gerald Armstrong. "I'm glad there's
spring coming right here - it's definitely a miracle. We certainly need
it."

But Chicagoans know the month of March is unpredictable, and often
unpleasant.

On Tuesday morning, Kris Habermehl described the present month by
quoting Garrison Keillor, "God designed the month of March to show
people who don't drink what a hangover feels like."

So people are waiting for the flowers to bloom and looking forward to
what's around the corner, in a couple of months or so.

"It should be really nice and warm and comfortable outside without a
coat," said Bobbie Welch.

Crossing guard Bruce Wulff has to work outside, and had a vision of
mid-May.

"About 72, no clouds, sunny," Wulff said.

The sun is expected to return over the weekend, but highs top out only
in the 30s on Saturday and Easter Sunday.

CBS 2's Steve Baskerville, Kristyn Hartman and Mary Kay Kleist
contributed to this report.
--

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

". researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany
report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years,
accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over
the last 100 years."http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175


Why do you keep posting this lie? The Max Planck Institute says just
the opposite.
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On Mar 21, 1:33 am, "0B0ZN" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message

...

If cherry and maple trees, butterflies, tree swallows, and Satellites
can all see global warming, why can't fossil fools? Please see:


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...5KPvQD8VGOQSO4


ROTFLMAO, another in the "BOOGA BOOGA" series!

It May Technically Be Spring, BUT .

6 To 8 Inches Of Snow Could Fall In Some Places

20 Mar 08

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/winter.....2.681254.html

Oftentimes in Chicago, March goes in like a lion and also out like a
lion. An approaching snowstorm suggests this is one of those times.

It may technically be spring, but don't put away your shovels and
scrapers yet. CBS 2 Meteorologist Steve Baskerville reports a winter
storm is inching toward the Chicago area and snow could begin
accumulating by about 2 a.m. Friday, with 1 to 2 inches accumulating by
the morning rush.

A winter storm watch is in effect for Cook and DuPage counties, areas
north of the Chicago area including Lake and McHenry counties, much of
the area west of Chicago, and parts of Northwest Indiana.

A heavy, wet snow is expected to start later Thursday night.

The storm is expected to move in from the Plains into northern Illinois
and the Chicago area. The area could see heavy snow from Thursday night
all the way through Friday night.

Totals of 6 inches are expected in many areas, with totals more severe
to the north. Along the Wisconsin border, snow totals may be as high as
8 inches. Far south in Kankakee County, only a rain-snow mix may be
seen.

During the season, 53 inches of snow has fallen in the area, and it
dipped below zero several times - making this one of the worst winters
in decades.

As CBS 2's Kristyn Hartman reports, Thursday shaped up to be a fairly
nice morning.

"It's been long and dark, and it's dragged out a long time," said Tom
Myers, who was out walking his dog.

But the mood was cooled and dampened by the looming snowstorm.

People we met at the LaGrange Metra station are sick of it all.

"My car died twice on me, I slid out of my driveway, and I hit my
neighbor's garbage can, and I broke off my side view mirror," said Erica
Brown. "It was just because it's been so cold, it just snapped."

"I had to sometimes take the buses, especially in the wintertime, going
all the way up north area. But I'll tell you one thing - it's like the
coldest winter of them all," said Gerald Armstrong. "I'm glad there's
spring coming right here - it's definitely a miracle. We certainly need
it."

But Chicagoans know the month of March is unpredictable, and often
unpleasant.

On Tuesday morning, Kris Habermehl described the present month by
quoting Garrison Keillor, "God designed the month of March to show
people who don't drink what a hangover feels like."

So people are waiting for the flowers to bloom and looking forward to
what's around the corner, in a couple of months or so.

"It should be really nice and warm and comfortable outside without a
coat," said Bobbie Welch.

Crossing guard Bruce Wulff has to work outside, and had a vision of
mid-May.

"About 72, no clouds, sunny," Wulff said.

The sun is expected to return over the weekend, but highs top out only
in the 30s on Saturday and Easter Sunday.

CBS 2's Steve Baskerville, Kristyn Hartman and Mary Kay Kleist
contributed to this report.
--

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

". researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany
report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years,
accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over
the last 100 years."http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175



http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrati...lease20040802/

Studies at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research reveal: solar activity
affects the climate but plays only a minor role in the current global warming

Since the middle of the last century, the Sun is in a phase of unusually high activity, as
indicated by frequent occurrences of sunspots, gas eruptions, and radiation storms.
Researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research (MPS) in
Katlenburg-Lindau (Germany) and at the University of Oulu (Finland) have come to this
conclusion after they have succeeded in reconstructing the solar activity based on the
sunspot frequency since 850 AD. To this end, they have combined historical sunspot records
with measurements of the frequency of radioactive isotopes in ice cores from Greenland and
the Antarctic. As the scientists have reported in the renowned scientific journal,
Physical Review Letters, since 1940 the mean sunspot number is higher than it has ever
been in the last thousand years and two and a half times higher than the long term
average. The temporal variation in the solar activity displays a similarity to that of the
mean temperature of the Earth. These scientific results therefore bring the influence of
the Sun on the terrestrial climate, and in particular its contribution to the global
warming of the 20th century, into the forefront of current interest. However, researchers
at the MPS have shown that the Sun can be responsible for, at most, only a small part of
the warming over the last 20-30 years. They took the measured and calculated variations in
the solar brightness over the last 150 years and compared them to the temperature of the
Earth. Although the changes in the two values tend to follow each other for roughly the
first 120 years, the Earth's temperature has risen dramatically in the last 30 years while
the solar brightness has not appreciably increased in this time.

Note: "the Earth's temperature has risen dramatically in the last 30 years while the solar
brightness has not appreciably increased in this time."


However, it is also clear that since about 1980, while the total solar radiation, its
ultraviolet component, and the cosmic ray intensity all exhibit the 11-year solar
periodicity, there has otherwise been no significant increase in their values. In
contrast, the Earth has warmed up considerably within this time period. This means that
the Sun is not the cause of the present global warming.

Note: "This means that the Sun is not the cause of the present global warming."

These findings bring the question as to what is the connection between variations in solar
activity and the terrestrial climate into the focal point of current research. The
influence of the Sun on the Earth is seen increasingly as one cause of the observed global
warming since 1900, along with the emission of the greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide, from
the combustion of coal, gas, and oil. "Just how large this role is, must still be
investigated, since, according to our latest knowledge on the variations of the solar
magnetic field, the significant increase in the Earth's temperature since 1980 is indeed
to be ascribed to the greenhouse effect caused by carbon dioxide," says Prof. Sami K.
Solanki, solar physicist and director at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System
Research.

Note: "the significant increase in the Earth's temperature since 1980 is indeed to be
ascribed to the greenhouse effect caused by carbon dioxide"


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Which is a link to nothing more than another Worthless KKKonservative
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