Bawana wrote:

If you can somehow force a liberal into a point-counterpoint argument,
his retorts will bear no relation to what you said--
In the famous liberal two-step, they leap from one idiotic point to
the next.
It's like arguing with a retard with Attention Deficit Disorder.

"His critics notwithstanding, Thomas Paine was in many ways the father
of modern liberalism, and thus one of the most important of the founders
of what both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson referred to as that
"liberal" experiment, the United States of America.

Liberals, after all, founded our nation...It wasn't FDR who first
seriously promoted the progressive income tax in the USA: it was Thomas
Paine. It wasn't LBJ who invented anti-poverty programs by introducing
Medicare, housing assistance, and food-stamp programs: Thomas Paine
proposed versions of all of these. It wasn't Jack Kennedy who first
talked seriously about international disarmament: it was Thomas Paine.
And Teddy Roosevelt wasn't the first American to talk about the "living
wage," or ways that corporate "maximum wage" wink-and-nod agreements
could be broken up: it was Thomas Paine. Even Woodrow Wilson's
inheritance tax, designed to prevent family empires from taking over our
nation, was the idea of Thomas Paine, as was the suggestion for old-age
pensions as part of a social safety net known today as Social Security."
-Thom Hartmann

http://www.buzzflash.com/hartmann/06/02/har06002.html


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