These words were used earlier on Radio 4 and BBC 1 breakfast TV forecasts
to describe today's expected temperatures of 4-5C and associated winds in
Southern England. I wonder what words would be used to describe conditions
many of us can recall from past winter easterlies.


Complete tripe.

God knows what they would say if we had the 80s style freeze ups again

"Max temps of -6 and gale force easterly winds"

Now that was "bitterly cold"

Anyone remember which year and no it wasn't 87!!!!!!!!

"Max temps of -6 and gale force easterly winds"

Now that was "bitterly cold"

Anyone remember which year and no it wasn't 87!!!!!!!!


1991 had max temps of about that, i remember it being -5
all day where i was in kent...

On 26 Jan 2006 06:30:20 -0800, wrote in
oups.com

I have every sympathy for the tree surgeon who has just been working in
my garden.
Temperature is indeed +5, but that wind (and low humidity) makes it
feel very unpleasant indeed.

I do remember the winter of 1963 and just about 1947. It might not be
numerically as cold today, but sure as dammit, it feels cold.

I reckon there is a fundamental omission in formulae which calculate
windchill temperatures. Here is the standard North American version (in
deg F of course)

Windchill (ºF) = 35.74 + 0.6215T - 35.75(V^0.16) + 0.4275T(V^0.16)

Whe T = Air Temperature (F)
V = Wind Speed (mph)
^ = raised to a power (exponential)

On the right hand side should a further negative, namely - 1.1269(Y^0.512)

where Y is years on this earth, or age:-)

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Dave

With the dew point around -4C and wind chill below zero I must cofess I did
feel a bit chilly whilst playing golf today. Mind you the fact that I was
playing on high ground near Gravesend, directly downwind of magnificent
views over the Thames Estuary didn't help! (Southern Valley GC if anyone
from Kent is interested exactly where)

Dave

"Mike Tullett" wrote in message
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On 26 Jan 2006 06:30:20 -0800, wrote in
oups.com

I have every sympathy for the tree surgeon who has just been working in
my garden.
Temperature is indeed +5, but that wind (and low humidity) makes it
feel very unpleasant indeed.

I do remember the winter of 1963 and just about 1947. It might not be
numerically as cold today, but sure as dammit, it feels cold.

I reckon there is a fundamental omission in formulae which calculate
windchill temperatures. Here is the standard North American version (in
deg F of course)

Windchill (ºF) = 35.74 + 0.6215T - 35.75(V^0.16) + 0.4275T(V^0.16)

Whe T = Air Temperature (F)
V = Wind Speed (mph)
^ = raised to a power (exponential)

On the right hand side should a further negative, namely - 1.1269(Y^0.512)

where Y is years on this earth, or age:-)

--
Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/01/2006
15:01:42 UTC

Mike Tullett wrote:
These words were used earlier on Radio 4 and BBC 1 breakfast TV forecasts
to describe today's expected temperatures of 4-5C and associated winds in
Southern England. I wonder what words would be used to describe conditions
many of us can recall from past winter easterlies.


Spoken by people who spend 99.9% percent of their lives indoors; beit
house, office or car.

I cycled over to the gym and back at lunchtime (round trip of 12miles)
and I was sweating buckets - especially when it came to riding against
that wind.

A bracing day - and a great one to be outdoors.

--
Chris
http://www.ivy-house.net
Swaffham, Norfolk

In article . com,
writes:
I have every sympathy for the tree surgeon who has just been working in
my garden.
Temperature is indeed +5, but that wind (and low humidity) makes it
feel very unpleasant indeed.

Agreed. I had to fight a battle with my mother this morning (she's 84
and I'm 57) in order not to wear my woolly hat, but then wished that I
had worn it.
--
John Hall "Never play cards with a man called Doc.
Never eat at a place called Mom's.
Never sleep with a woman whose troubles
are worse than your own." Nelson Algren

In message , Jill
writes
jochta wrote:
Keith (Southend)G wrote:
Mmm, just come in from outside, it's 'bitterly cold' out there grin

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net


And my bones are thoroughly chilled. Brrrrr.

Its glorious !!!
Its dry :~)

That's not necessarily good news. My local rivers are looking rather low
and the reservoirs are down too.
--
Tim
http://www.stopharlownorth.com/

In message , Mike Tullett
writes
These words were used earlier on Radio 4 and BBC 1 breakfast TV forecasts
to describe today's expected temperatures of 4-5C and associated winds in
Southern England. I wonder what words would be used to describe conditions
many of us can recall from past winter easterlies.

Pathetic isn't it Mike.
Soft southerners.
If we ever did get a truly winter blast from the east I hate to think
what would happen down there.

Another day to enjoy today, as Will would say.

--
steve

Weather at Scotton, Knaresborough, North Yorkshire
http://www.knaresboroughweather.co.uk

"Rupert" wrote in message
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God knows what they would say if we had the 80s style freeze ups again

"Max temps of -6 and gale force easterly winds"

Now that was "bitterly cold"

Anyone remember which year and no it wasn't 87!!!!!!!!

1982; January 8th stands out for me. A white knuckle ride from
near Reading, Berkshire to Ryde, Isle of Wight that afternoon and
evening was unforgettable, especially the latter part. In falling and
drifting snow, the M3 was negotiable by some careful driving where
dozens of vehicles had already spun off the motorway.

Having been dropped off at the ferry terminal in Southampton at
about 6PM, I soon discovered that the car ferries were not running
due to ice sheets floating in the north end of Southampton Water.
At the terminal I learned that the passenger ferries were still operating
out of Portsmouth so after a 20 minute blast in the blowing snow,
carrying luggage, I took the train (a slow shuttle service maybe, but
it reached Portsmouth Harbour around 9:30PM).

A ferry was in and ready to depart (timetable up the spout), but one
of the crew informed me that it might not sail because of high winds
and an ice covered gangplank that bobbed about at an incline of
around 30 degrees to the horizontal. After an announcement was
broadcast that the ferry would attempt to make the crossing, I was
told to lob my bags onto the deck and then slide up the foot-wide
walkway, using both handrails to haul myself up (at night, in poor
artificial light and strong gusts... what Health and Safety?!).
Needless to say, there were no children, pets, elderly or infirm
people onboard this vessel! Only the fit (as I must then have been).

A screaming force 9 easterly in the Solent ensured that the
entertainment carried on all the way to the exposed and very
slippery Ryde Pier Head where several attempts at docking the
ferry were made. The shuffle down the half mile long pier from
11 to 11:30PM was particularly interesting.

Once home, I measured a mean wind of 35kt, gusts 48kt (a mile
inland) and the dry bulb was -3C. Perhaps someone would care
to work out the wind chill factor. 'Level' snow depth in the garden
was very roughly 13cm (average of 10% bare patches of grass to
30cm of snow thanks to heavy blowing of the stuff) while drifts
heaped to 150cm.

Nigel (hardy Southener)