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Old January 8th 05, 06:49 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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More hurricane force winds forecast -
See the latest GFS model output for Tuesday night;
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn843.gif
Now that is very worrying!
Alex.

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Conditions in Wishaw @ 7:40pm , 8/1/05
Temperature 4.1 ฐC. Dew point 2.1 บC. 87.0 %RH
Mean wind speed 21 mph from the West South West . Gusting to 37 mph.
Remarks; --- , 0.4 mm precipitation in the past hour.
Cloud cover: Broken Clouds
MSLP 1001.6 mb, Steady .
Today's Max. 10.4 ฐC at 2:20am .
Today's min. 2.1 ฐC at 3:50pm .
Today's rain 11.0 mm
Wishaw, North Lanarkshire, Scotland
N55บ47'14", W3บ55'15". 360ft/117m amsl
http://www.alex114.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
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More hurricane force winds forecast -
See the latest GFS model output for Tuesday night;
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn843.gif
Now that is very worrying!
Alex.

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Still only a rumour Alex, and its well north of Scotland. Still worth
keeping a watch on it though:-(

Gavin.


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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
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More hurricane force winds forecast -
See the latest GFS model output for Tuesday night;
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn843.gif
Now that is very worrying!
Alex.


It brought a few tears to the eyes, Alex ! Early days with that one.. either
way it should keep the dreaded fog at bay ;-)

Jon.


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looks like a central pressure of just under 950 mb, looks nasty.

Mike

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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
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More hurricane force winds forecast -
See the latest GFS model output for Tuesday night;
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn843.gif
Now that is very worrying!
Alex.

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Conditions in Wishaw @ 7:40pm , 8/1/05
Temperature 4.1 ฐC. Dew point 2.1 บC. 87.0 %RH
Mean wind speed 21 mph from the West South West . Gusting to 37 mph.
Remarks; --- , 0.4 mm precipitation in the past hour.
Cloud cover: Broken Clouds
MSLP 1001.6 mb, Steady .
Today's Max. 10.4 ฐC at 2:20am .
Today's min. 2.1 ฐC at 3:50pm .
Today's rain 11.0 mm
Wishaw, North Lanarkshire, Scotland
N55บ47'14", W3บ55'15". 360ft/117m amsl
http://www.alex114.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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acutally, looks less, 945mb i would have said.

Mike

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"Alex Stephens Jr" wrote in message
...
More hurricane force winds forecast -
See the latest GFS model output for Tuesday night;
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn843.gif
Now that is very worrying!
Alex.

--
บบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบ
Conditions in Wishaw @ 7:40pm , 8/1/05
Temperature 4.1 ฐC. Dew point 2.1 บC. 87.0 %RH
Mean wind speed 21 mph from the West South West . Gusting to 37 mph.
Remarks; --- , 0.4 mm precipitation in the past hour.
Cloud cover: Broken Clouds
MSLP 1001.6 mb, Steady .
Today's Max. 10.4 ฐC at 2:20am .
Today's min. 2.1 ฐC at 3:50pm .
Today's rain 11.0 mm
Wishaw, North Lanarkshire, Scotland
N55บ47'14", W3บ55'15". 360ft/117m amsl
http://www.alex114.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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Let's not call these things Hurricanes please

deep atlantic lows, with strong winds in their circulations

they don't look like hurricanes on sat pics
they don't have warm cores
they have not developed in the tropics

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"BlueLightning" wrote in message
ups.com...
Let's not call these things Hurricanes please

deep atlantic lows, with strong winds in their circulations

they don't look like hurricanes on sat pics
they don't have warm cores
they have not developed in the tropics


According to the Beaufort Scale its 64Knots +
http://www.r-p-r.co.uk/beaufort.htm



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In message , Stuart
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"BlueLightning" wrote in message
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Let's not call these things Hurricanes please

deep atlantic lows, with strong winds in their circulations

they don't look like hurricanes on sat pics
they don't have warm cores
they have not developed in the tropics


According to the Beaufort Scale its 64Knots +
http://www.r-p-r.co.uk/beaufort.htm


By definition, a "hurricane" is the name given to a tropical cyclone in
the North Atlantic Ocean or NE Pacific Ocean in which sustained wind
speeds (averaged over 1-minute) are hurricane force (64 knots or more).
In the NW Pacific such cyclones are called "typhoons". In the Indian
Ocean they are called "cyclones"

Hurricane force winds can (and often do) occur in low pressure systems
that do not have any tropical characteristics. This does not mean that
these low pressure systems are hurricanes. They are not.

For a system to be called a hurricane (or typhoon) it must

a) be warm-cored and have originated in the tropics or
sub-tropics
and b) have sustained winds of 64 knots or more

If only one of these two requirements is met the system is not a
hurricane or typhoon.

The terms "hurricane" and "hurricane force" mean quite different things.

This may all sound a bit pedantic but on a scientific newsgroup it makes
sense to get the science right :-)

Norman.
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Stuart wrote:

According to the Beaufort Scale its 64Knots +
http://www.r-p-r.co.uk/beaufort.htm


Yes, but you can have hurricane force winds without a hurricane.

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I did elabourate within the thread that it was hurricane force winds I was
refering to. The header was a bit of an attention grabber I must admit.
I've never quite understood why North Atlantic storm systems don't have
their own one word term, instead of wordy mouthfulls."extratropical
cyclones", "North Atlantic storm" etc.
"Lows", "depressions", or "storms" seem rather vague.
How about "Bigwind".
And a naming system too! I can just hear it:
Bigwind bluelightning, the second bigwind of the year, is approaching the
shores of the UK. Bigwinds can of course lead to structural damage, trees
being uprooted and coastal flooding.
Nah? maybe not then.
Alex.




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Let's not call these things Hurricanes please

deep atlantic lows, with strong winds in their circulations

they don't look like hurricanes on sat pics
they don't have warm cores
they have not developed in the tropics





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