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I have taken the plunge....some tender French Bean plants are now out
in the garden. What's the chance of them being caught by a late frost ?
Am I crazy or a shrewd optimist ?

Going off previous years I would be surprised if we don't get another
ground frost or two, but an air frost...not so sure!

Richard.
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Dartington, South Hams, Devon.
100 ft AMSL.
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"Richard Orrell" wrote in message
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I have taken the plunge....some tender French Bean plants are now out
in the garden. What's the chance of them being caught by a late frost ?
Am I crazy or a shrewd optimist ?


I really would not put anything tender out until the last week in May. I've
even known a frost in early June that has caught outdoor tomatoes

John


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Richard Orrell wrote:
I have taken the plunge....some tender French Bean plants are now out
in the garden. What's the chance of them being caught by a late frost ?
Am I crazy or a shrewd optimist ?

Going off previous years I would be surprised if we don't get another
ground frost or two, but an air frost...not so sure!

Richard.
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Dartington, South Hams, Devon.
100 ft AMSL.
50' 12N, 03' 24W.


Hi, Richard,

Copley, last ground frost of spring 31st July, first ground frost of
autumn 1st August!
Last air frost early June, first mid September.
I suspect Devon will be a touch kinder.

Best wishes
Ken Cook
Copley, 253metres asl, nr Barnard Castle, County Durham
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/copley

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Don't worry guys GW will look after all that frost nonsense ,especially if
David Mitchell's meteorite does it's stuff......


RonB
"Ken Cook" wrote in message
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Richard Orrell wrote:
I have taken the plunge....some tender French Bean plants are now out
in the garden. What's the chance of them being caught by a late frost ?
Am I crazy or a shrewd optimist ?

Going off previous years I would be surprised if we don't get another
ground frost or two, but an air frost...not so sure!

Richard.
--
Dartington, South Hams, Devon.
100 ft AMSL.
50' 12N, 03' 24W.


Hi, Richard,

Copley, last ground frost of spring 31st July, first ground frost of
autumn 1st August!
Last air frost early June, first mid September.
I suspect Devon will be a touch kinder.

Best wishes
Ken Cook
Copley, 253metres asl, nr Barnard Castle, County Durham
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/copley



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Richard,

Well, in the last 16 years. I've only ever recorded 3 air frosts in
April, and none this late. Last years geraniums which over wintered OK
are in full flower now.

But, of course, you live up in England. Still no sign of anything
particularly cold.

Graham
Penzance



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My definition of spring has now occurred viz 14 consecutive days with the
20cm soil temperature 6C or more taken at 09.00hrs GMT.
However I do not "cast my clout"( put out the tender plants and take my vest
off) 'til the average date of the May blossom in my area ie mid May. Before
that air frosts have occurred in 8 Mays from 1979 at my station including
11th May last year. A slight grass frost can easily be covered by fleeces,
newspapers etc.

Ian Currie- Coulsdon
www.frostedearth.com



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"Richard Orrell" wrote in message
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I have taken the plunge....some tender French Bean plants are now out
in the garden. What's the chance of them being caught by a late frost ?
Am I crazy or a shrewd optimist ?


I really would not put anything tender out until the last week in May.

I've
even known a frost in early June that has caught outdoor tomatoes

John




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"Ron Button" wrote in message
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Don't worry guys GW will look after all that frost nonsense ,especially if
David Mitchell's meteorite does it's stuff......


RonB
"Ken Cook" wrote in message
ps.com...

Richard Orrell wrote:
I have taken the plunge....some tender French Bean plants are now out
in the garden. What's the chance of them being caught by a late frost ?
Am I crazy or a shrewd optimist ?

Going off previous years I would be surprised if we don't get another
ground frost or two, but an air frost...not so sure!

Richard.
--
Dartington, South Hams, Devon.
100 ft AMSL.
50' 12N, 03' 24W.


Hi, Richard,

Copley, last ground frost of spring 31st July, first ground frost of
autumn 1st August!
Last air frost early June, first mid September.
I suspect Devon will be a touch kinder.

Best wishes
Ken Cook
Copley, 253metres asl, nr Barnard Castle, County Durham
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/copley



Wow, I now have fame with a meteor/ite named after me. Last air frosts 11th
& 12th May last year, though a few nights after that were close.


--
David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire.


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Will Hand wrote:
In the Devon mountains we get ground frosts well into June.


In the Berkshire lowlands I've recorded air frost as late as 9 June (in
2001) and ground frost as late as 21 June (in 2004). We have learned
the hard way not to put out our tender plants until at least the third
week of May, and even then be prepared to cover them or move them back
into the conservatory on chilly nights well into June.

Not yet recorded ground frosts here in July but occasionally in August
(earliest 1 August, in 1986).

My site is towards the bottom of a rural valley but not in a hollow.
Reading University, a town-centre site 10 km distant, records grass
minimum temperatures similar to mine throughout the year and has
recorded very occasional ground frosts in July in the last 30 years:
the former Met Office site at Beaufort Park near Bracknell regularly
recorded ground frosts in July, in a sandy-soil forest clearing.

I can't honestly say I've ever seen even a sharp ground frost damage
plants significantly though, it needs an air frost to do that IMHO ...

Stephen



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