Britain 'May Face
Sudden Ice Age'
By Severin Carrell
The Independent - UK
8-17-03


Britain may be basking in one of the hottest summers on record, but
scientists now fear that the UK could face an abrupt switch to freezing
winters and Icelandic summers.

Leading global warming experts suspect that climate change, instead of being
a gradual and largely predictable process, could mean that Europe's weather
patterns will worsen severely with very little warning.

At any time after 2010, their research suggests, Britain's average
temperature could drop by up to 5C within as little as three or four years -
with catastrophic results for farming, transport, northern towns and
tourism.

That would leave Britain with the same average temperatures as Iceland, said
Professor Jochem Marotze, one of Europe's leading oceanographers. "It would
wreck agriculture the way we know it now," he said.

When southern Britain was sweltering with a record 38.1C (100.6F) last
Sunday, residents of Iceland's capital, Reykjavik, endured rain and a much
cooler 13C (55F).

Many scientists now believe that rapidly increasing CO2 emissions will
exacerbate the natural cycle of hot and cold weather that led to the mini
Ice Age of the 17th century by severely affecting natural ocean currents.

The natural cycle of hot and cold periods is chiefly responsible for this
summer's heatwave, say climatologists. However, global-warming gases are
very likely to have intensified its effects.

© 2003 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

news.independent.co.uk/uk...ory=434482

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Britain 'May Face
Sudden Ice Age'
By Severin Carrell
The Independent - UK
8-17-03


Britain may be basking in one of the hottest summers on record, but
scientists now fear that the UK could face an abrupt switch to freezing
winters and Icelandic summers.

Leading global warming experts suspect that climate change, instead of being
a gradual and largely predictable process, could mean that Europe's weather
patterns will worsen severely with very little warning.

At any time after 2010, their research suggests, Britain's average
temperature could drop by up to 5C within as little as three or four years -
with catastrophic results for farming, transport, northern towns and
tourism.

That would leave Britain with the same average temperatures as Iceland, said
Professor Jochem Marotze, one of Europe's leading oceanographers. "It would
wreck agriculture the way we know it now," he said.

When southern Britain was sweltering with a record 38.1C (100.6F) last
Sunday, residents of Iceland's capital, Reykjavik, endured rain and a much
cooler 13C (55F).

Many scientists now believe that rapidly increasing CO2 emissions will
exacerbate the natural cycle of hot and cold weather that led to the mini
Ice Age of the 17th century by severely affecting natural ocean currents.

The natural cycle of hot and cold periods is chiefly responsible for this
summer's heatwave, say climatologists. However, global-warming gases are
very likely to have intensified its effects.

© 2003 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

news.independent.co.uk/uk...ory=434482



This sounds to me that the global warming industry has read the predications
of the global warming sceptics such as the one at
http://mitosyfraudes.8k.com/Calen/Landscheidt-1.html and are preparing the
ground in case the predicitions based on alternative thoeries such as that of
changes in the sun's output turn out to be correct.

Ie, whatever happens the clinate, it is the result of man made climate
change. Or so we are supposed to believe. And as usual, the politicians
will find ways of making money out of it.

Martin





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"codge" wrote:

Britain 'May Face
Sudden Ice Age'
By Severin Carrell
The Independent - UK
8-17-03


Britain may be basking in one of the hottest summers on record, but
scientists now fear that the UK could face an abrupt switch to freezing
winters and Icelandic summers.

Leading global warming experts suspect that climate change, instead of
being
a gradual and largely predictable process, could mean that Europe's
weather
patterns will worsen severely with very little warning.

At any time after 2010, their research suggests, Britain's average
temperature could drop by up to 5C within as little as three or four
years -
with catastrophic results for farming, transport, northern towns and
tourism.

That would leave Britain with the same average temperatures as Iceland,
said
Professor Jochem Marotze, one of Europe's leading oceanographers. "It
would
wreck agriculture the way we know it now," he said.

When southern Britain was sweltering with a record 38.1C (100.6F) last
Sunday, residents of Iceland's capital, Reykjavik, endured rain and a
much
cooler 13C (55F).

Many scientists now believe that rapidly increasing CO2 emissions will
exacerbate the natural cycle of hot and cold weather that led to the
mini
Ice Age of the 17th century by severely affecting natural ocean
currents.

The natural cycle of hot and cold periods is chiefly responsible for
this
summer's heatwave, say climatologists. However, global-warming gases are
very likely to have intensified its effects.

© 2003 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

news.independent.co.uk/uk...ory=434482



This sounds to me that the global warming industry has read the
predications
of the global warming sceptics such as the one at
http://mitosyfraudes.8k.com/Calen/Landscheidt-1.html and are preparing the
ground in case the predicitions based on alternative thoeries such as that
of
changes in the sun's output turn out to be correct.

Ie, whatever happens the clinate, it is the result of man made climate
change. Or so we are supposed to believe. And as usual, the politicians
will find ways of making money out of it.

Martin



Just 'cool' if you ask me :-)

Steve

"The UK SpeedTrap Guide" @ http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk
"The UK Weather Guide" @ http://www.ukstorms.com

"codge" wrote in message
...

What an incredible non informative loose ended article. Even the spurious
mention of Reykjavik means nothing as their mean max for August is 14C so it
is not unusual in having 13C. Had the author done some homework he could
have mentioned the anomalous sea temperatures in the region. Statements such
as " At any time after 2010" how vague-does it mean 10 years , a million
years or 100 million?
Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.frostedearth.com

Britain 'May Face
Sudden Ice Age'
By Severin Carrell
The Independent - UK
8-17-03


Britain may be basking in one of the hottest summers on record, but
scientists now fear that the UK could face an abrupt switch to freezing
winters and Icelandic summers.

Leading global warming experts suspect that climate change, instead of
being
a gradual and largely predictable process, could mean that Europe's
weather
patterns will worsen severely with very little warning.

At any time after 2010, their research suggests, Britain's average
temperature could drop by up to 5C within as little as three or four
years -
with catastrophic results for farming, transport, northern towns and
tourism.

That would leave Britain with the same average temperatures as Iceland,
said
Professor Jochem Marotze, one of Europe's leading oceanographers. "It
would
wreck agriculture the way we know it now," he said.

When southern Britain was sweltering with a record 38.1C (100.6F) last
Sunday, residents of Iceland's capital, Reykjavik, endured rain and a much
cooler 13C (55F).

Many scientists now believe that rapidly increasing CO2 emissions will
exacerbate the natural cycle of hot and cold weather that led to the mini
Ice Age of the 17th century by severely affecting natural ocean currents.

The natural cycle of hot and cold periods is chiefly responsible for this
summer's heatwave, say climatologists. However, global-warming gases are
very likely to have intensified its effects.

© 2003 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

news.independent.co.uk/uk...ory=434482

I have just printed out and analysed the first four pages of the paper
reached at the given link below.

My conclusion is that it's a load of bunkum. He fails at the first
hurdle.

Figure 1. showing temperature at Vostok station.

The commentary refers to Forbush events. No explanation of what they are
or the logic of how they are plotted.

The graph is supposed to show a strong correlation between solar flares
and surface temperature. He even adds that its not worth proving the
statistical significance.

It's a piece of trash science.


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"codge" wrote:

Britain 'May Face
Sudden Ice Age'
By Severin Carrell
The Independent - UK
8-17-03


Britain may be basking in one of the hottest summers on record,
but
scientists now fear that the UK could face an abrupt switch to
freezing
winters and Icelandic summers.

Leading global warming experts suspect that climate change,
instead of
being
a gradual and largely predictable process, could mean that
Europe's
weather
patterns will worsen severely with very little warning.

At any time after 2010, their research suggests, Britain's average
temperature could drop by up to 5C within as little as three or
four
years -
with catastrophic results for farming, transport, northern towns
and
tourism.

That would leave Britain with the same average temperatures as
Iceland,
said
Professor Jochem Marotze, one of Europe's leading oceanographers.
"It
would
wreck agriculture the way we know it now," he said.

When southern Britain was sweltering with a record 38.1C (100.6F)
last
Sunday, residents of Iceland's capital, Reykjavik, endured rain
and a
much
cooler 13C (55F).

Many scientists now believe that rapidly increasing CO2 emissions
will
exacerbate the natural cycle of hot and cold weather that led to
the
mini
Ice Age of the 17th century by severely affecting natural ocean
currents.

The natural cycle of hot and cold periods is chiefly responsible
for
this
summer's heatwave, say climatologists. However, global-warming
gases are
very likely to have intensified its effects.

© 2003 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

news.independent.co.uk/uk...ory=434482



This sounds to me that the global warming industry has read the
predications
of the global warming sceptics such as the one at
http://mitosyfraudes.8k.com/Calen/Landscheidt-1.html and are
preparing the
ground in case the predicitions based on alternative thoeries such
as that
of
changes in the sun's output turn out to be correct.

Ie, whatever happens the clinate, it is the result of man made
climate
change. Or so we are supposed to believe. And as usual, the
politicians
will find ways of making money out of it.

Martin



Just 'cool' if you ask me :-)

Steve

"The UK SpeedTrap Guide" @ http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk
"The UK Weather Guide" @ http://www.ukstorms.com

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codge writes:
Britain 'May Face
Sudden Ice Age'
By Severin Carrell
The Independent - UK
8-17-03

Always take with a pinch of salt alarmist stories with the cop-out word
"may" in the headline.
--
John Hall
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"

Sir Josiah Stamp, a former president of the Bank of England