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Old September 10th 06, 06:28 PM posted to uk.sci.weather,ne.weather,alt.global-warming
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I just wonder how the people in hot countries used to sleep centuries
ago. No fan, no wind. If you sleep below night sky, mosquitos will bite
you all night. If you sleep inside house, excessing sweating, heat will
not allow to sleep.

How on earth they did to sleep in such conditions?


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neo wrote:
I just wonder how the people in hot countries used to sleep centuries
ago. No fan, no wind. If you sleep below night sky, mosquitos will bite
you all night. If you sleep inside house, excessing sweating, heat will
not allow to sleep.

How on earth they did to sleep in such conditions?


A brilliant question. I have no idea but experience this July in
sister-in-law's house (no fan) certainly suggested that it is extrmemly
difficult to sleep (unless ****-d)

Jack

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In article .com,
neo writes:
I just wonder how the people in hot countries used to sleep centuries
ago. No fan, no wind. If you sleep below night sky, mosquitos will bite
you all night. If you sleep inside house, excessing sweating, heat will
not allow to sleep.

How on earth they did to sleep in such conditions?

I can't give a complete answer, but I can think of some factors that
might have helped to some degree:

1. Their builders knew how to build houses that kept the interior as
cool as possible. (Possibly including small windows, window shutters,
thick walls, high ceilings.)
2. Mosquito nets or some sort of repellent. (And mosquitos aren't a
problem in all hot countries.)
3. People have a considerable ability to acclimatise. What at first
seems almost intolerable, becomes easier to handle after a while.
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In article .com,
neo writes:
I just wonder how the people in hot countries used to sleep centuries
ago. No fan, no wind. If you sleep below night sky, mosquitos will bite
you all night. If you sleep inside house, excessing sweating, heat will
not allow to sleep.

How on earth they did to sleep in such conditions?

I can't give a complete answer, but I can think of some factors that
might have helped to some degree:

1. Their builders knew how to build houses that kept the interior as
cool as possible. (Possibly including small windows, window shutters,
thick walls, high ceilings.)
2. Mosquito nets or some sort of repellent. (And mosquitos aren't a
problem in all hot countries.)
3. People have a considerable ability to acclimatise. What at first
seems almost intolerable, becomes easier to handle after a while.
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yes, we live in an old farm house, very thick walls, comparatively small
windows, and inside it stays cool in summer and warm in winter, or at least
cooler and warmer than the outside world

Also in many middle easten countries where houses had a flat roof, that was
often used as an extra room, and would be cooler than inside the house


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Jim Webster wrote:
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In article .com,
neo writes:
I just wonder how the people in hot countries used to sleep centuries
ago. No fan, no wind. If you sleep below night sky, mosquitos will bite
you all night. If you sleep inside house, excessing sweating, heat will
not allow to sleep.

How on earth they did to sleep in such conditions?

I can't give a complete answer, but I can think of some factors that
might have helped to some degree:

1. Their builders knew how to build houses that kept the interior as
cool as possible. (Possibly including small windows, window shutters,
thick walls, high ceilings.)
2. Mosquito nets or some sort of repellent. (And mosquitos aren't a
problem in all hot countries.)
3. People have a considerable ability to acclimatise. What at first
seems almost intolerable, becomes easier to handle after a while.
--


yes, we live in an old farm house, very thick walls, comparatively small
windows, and inside it stays cool in summer and warm in winter, or at least
cooler and warmer than the outside world


Of course one would have been well off to have lived in such state not
all that long ago.

Those on more meagre rations had the devil's own choice. I suppose
being dilligent they just went out rabbiting or in for a spot of
poaching for the other choice.

Also in many middle easten countries where houses had a flat roof, that was
often used as an extra room, and would be cooler than inside the house


Plus of course with few planning regulations and no financial losses
tying one up for life one could build even modest huts with thick mud
walls and build them suficiently far from the still waters that breed
mosquitoes.

It's only when things tend to get crowded out that we start to hear of
troublesome plagues. And even then it is because poiticians and the way
a citizen must earn a crust that the siting of a man's house gets out f
his control.

These days it is even worse as houses need to be thief-proof in a
manner our great grandparents wouldn't understand.

Or put it another way:

How much damage to Florida would the super-storms of recent history
have done to the cultures that once lived closer to harmony with their
environment?

Come to that, how many medicines and wards might have been lost to us
by killing all those cultures?

We will never know. I dare say there are still people who know how to
ward off flying creatures, with the right mixture of herbs and
essences. They do say that for a man to enjoy a walk in the country
best, he aught to take a woman with him.

The base oils in her perfumes will attract all the midges and flies
going and leave him free to admire the view. Maybe that's why people
slept over their livestock?



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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:36:30 +0100, John Hall wrote:

1. Their builders knew how to build houses that kept the interior as
cool as possible. (Possibly including small windows, window shutters,
thick walls, high ceilings.)


Yep, notice how mediteranian properties have lots of exposed stone,
central courtyards with trees and fountains.

3. People have a considerable ability to acclimatise. What at first
seems almost intolerable, becomes easier to handle after a while.


Works both ways as well. If I drop down to the lowlands and it's much
over 20C I find it rather to warm. Indeed today I was out motor mowing
the grass and I was dripping in sweat and the shade temp barely reached
20C. Conversly out in the Far East I've been perfectly happy with temp up
in the 30s.

It doesn't take much bulk air movement to make a room comfortable. As to
fans a small high speed one squirting a jet of air about is far less
effective, comfort wise, that a 4 or 5' dia slowly rotating ceiling fan.
The latter moves the entire volume of air in the room enmasse rather than
just a little bit of it.

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Well basically, they stunk to high heavens....since they bathed like not
that often...which can be a bug deterent in some
cases....2nd...they weren't the pussies we are..... it was called
survival...now...we sit and watch it on tv.....



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I just wonder how the people in hot countries used to sleep centuries
ago. No fan, no wind. If you sleep below night sky, mosquitos will bite
you all night. If you sleep inside house, excessing sweating, heat will
not allow to sleep.

How on earth they did to sleep in such conditions?



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"neo" wrote in message
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I just wonder how the people in hot countries used to sleep centuries
ago. No fan, no wind. If you sleep below night sky, mosquitos will bite
you all night. If you sleep inside house, excessing sweating, heat will
not allow to sleep.

How on earth they did to sleep in such conditions?


Born and raised in Florida and grew up without AC - I don't have any idea
how I did it.
All I can figure is that when a condition is all you know you have a higher
tolerance for it.


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...they weren't the pussies we are.....


You've hit the nail on the head.


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neo wrote:
I just wonder how the people in hot countries used to sleep centuries
ago. No fan, no wind. If you sleep below night sky, mosquitos will bite
you all night. If you sleep inside house, excessing sweating, heat will
not allow to sleep.

How on earth they did to sleep in such conditions?


Used to? The same way that they still do.

Building houses of stone, and with thick walls, is a common method of keeping
out the heat (and the cold).

It is not unusual to find that in warmer countries (like Italy) houses may be
built with the sleeping quarters downstairs, and the kitchen upstairs, which
prevents unnecessary warming of the sleeping area. Outdoor ovens are also not
unusual and remove the need to make bread etc. in the house.

Appropriate ventilation and small window area (or adequate shutters) also helps.

Sleeping inside the house will generally be less warm than sleeping outside -
that applies here in sunny Scotland as much as in warmer locations. You seem to
suggest that you would be warmer inside, which should not be the case in a
properly constructed dwelling.


--
Gianna


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