OK. So the end of this month is feeling exceptionally warm...Does
anybody know of many precedents where warmth late in October was
followed by decently cold winters?

I can remember a couple of occasions recently where snow in Scotland in
October was followed by a diastrous winter. Similarly in the late
1980s...

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Scott W writes:
OK. So the end of this month is feeling exceptionally warm...Does
anybody know of many precedents where warmth late in October was
followed by decently cold winters?

I can remember a couple of occasions recently where snow in Scotland in
October was followed by a diastrous winter. Similarly in the late
1980s...


I don't know about specifically the end of the month, but October, 1995
was very mild overall and was followed by a cold winter. But I doubt
that there's much if any correlation between October temperatures and
those in winter.
--
John Hall

"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."
Oscar Wilde

OK. So the end of this month is feeling exceptionally warm...Does
anybody know of many precedents where warmth late in October was
followed by decently cold winters?

I can remember a couple of occasions recently where snow in Scotland in
October was followed by a diastrous winter. Similarly in the late
1980s...


One I remember was October 1978 which was much warmer than average
followed by a very mild first 23 days of November max temps mostly
ranging from 10c to 18c then it suddenly changed on the 24th with some
snow on the 25th and frosts until the end of the month. Snow lying for
the last 5 days with a minimum of -5 on the 28th and a low maximum of
-1.1c on the 30th!
What followed was the brilliant cold and very snowy winter of 1979 with
snow lying on all 59 days of January and February, and there was even
snow falling on the first 5 days of May with snow lying on the 2nd!
May 1979 is still the coldest on record here (1960-2006)

Must point out that both October and November 1978 were not only very
mild but also very dry unlike this October which has already seen over
100mm of rainfall for the 7th time in 9 years!

Weston Coyney weather station (North Staffordshire) 220 metres asl
--
Graham

"Graham" wrote in message
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One I remember was October 1978 which was much warmer than average
followed by a very mild first 23 days of November max temps mostly ranging
from 10c to 18c then it suddenly changed on the 24th with some snow on the
25th and frosts until the end of the month. Snow lying for the last 5 days
with a minimum of -5 on the 28th and a low maximum of -1.1c on the 30th!

I remember that well. I was at Harper Adams agriculturual college at the
time and the met man there predicted a very cold winter based on that month
I think. It was very warm and dry I remember and I regard it as the last
really cold winter as it was so persistant - the cold weather kept on coming
back even in April and May.

John

If ice in November will bear a duck ,there'll be nothing after 'cept rain
and muck.....Plato 1946

RonB



"Scott W" wrote in message
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OK. So the end of this month is feeling exceptionally warm...Does
anybody know of many precedents where warmth late in October was
followed by decently cold winters?

I can remember a couple of occasions recently where snow in Scotland in
October was followed by a diastrous winter. Similarly in the late
1980s...

As silly season get's underway

I'm still in t-shirts here at the end of October

Once upon a time, the family would be lighting those coal / log fires
by the end of September

"BlueLightning" wrote in message
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As silly season get's underway

I'm still in t-shirts here at the end of October

Once upon a time, the family would be lighting those coal / log fires
by the end of September


I know, it's awful. Horrible, warm and damp here this morning. Temp 13.6 deg C
at 0930 for goodness sake :-(

Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl).
--

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:25 +0100, "Will Hand"
wrote:

I know, it's awful. Horrible, warm and damp here this morning. Temp 13.6 deg C
at 0930 for goodness sake :-(

Rather than continually moaning about it, I think you should move.

13.2°C here with very wet drizzle but, as my #2 son said this morning,
'it's still beautiful...'.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather
Some walks and treks:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks

In message , Alan White
writes
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:25 +0100, "Will Hand"
wrote:

I know, it's awful. Horrible, warm and damp here this morning. Temp 13.6 deg C
at 0930 for goodness sake :-(

Rather than continually moaning about it, I think you should move.

13.2°C here with very wet drizzle but, as my #2 son said this morning,
'it's still beautiful...'.



Well said, I frequently wonder why the smug git has so many acolytes, or
why he is so readily tolerated with his self satisfied "Haytor" reports.

A Manc who's moved to the country, big deal. There's plenty of us (me
for example) who live in far wilder places than Devon. Devon for Pete's
sake, a lovely county but hardly the last frontier.

Fingers crossed the next time he gets a half inch of snow his sledge
will take him headlong over a ridge. Oooops forgot, it's Dartmoor, not
much risk there then.
--
Smooks

"Smooks" wrote in message
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Well said, I frequently wonder why the smug git has so many acolytes, or
why he is so readily tolerated with his self satisfied "Haytor" reports.


I await with baited breath for *your* positive contribution to this
newsgroup.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl