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Looks like my 2006 HP High will get smashed next weekend with1045+mb on the
charts 2006 HP 22 Jan 06 1037.7 mb Phil -- www.layton.me.uk/meteo.htm |
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Phil Layton wrote:
Looks like my 2006 HP High will get smashed next weekend with1045+mb on the charts 2006 HP 22 Jan 06 1037.7 mb Out of interest, what's the highest pressure that's been recorded in England? -- Jonathan Stott Canterbury Weather: http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/ Reverse my e-mail address to reply by e-mail |
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Phil Layton wrote:
Looks like my 2006 HP High will get smashed next weekend with1045+mb on the charts "Jonathan Stott" wrote in message ... Out of interest, what's the highest pressure that's been recorded in England? .... we really need Philip Eden or Stephen Burt to sort this out for us, but I've found the following for December & January (the two months with the highest mslp BI-wide), so they give a 'flavour' of the sort of values we might be looking at (but not claiming that these represent 'records' for England):- December 1962: 1048 mbar North Yorkshire (Leeming?) 23rd 1991: ~1046 mbar Channel/southern England 25th January 1905: 1052 mbar 'SW Britain' 28th 1932: 'slightly over 1050 mbar' over 'parts of England' 26th: noted at the time as the highest in the Midlands for over 50 years. 1989: 1045.9 mbar Plymouth (Mount Batten) 30th and 1045.8 mbar Culdrose (Cornwall); in the London area, 1045 mbar, only 3 mbar away from 40yr maximum value (for LWC???) Martin. -- FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm and http://booty.org.uk/booty.weather/metindex.htm |
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![]() "Martin Rowley" wrote: "Jonathan Stott" wrote : Out of interest, what's the highest pressure that's been recorded in England? ... we really need Philip Eden or Stephen Burt to sort this out for us, but I've found the following for December & January (the two months with the highest mslp BI-wide), so they give a 'flavour' of the sort of values we might be looking at (but not claiming that these represent 'records' for England):- December 1962: 1048 mbar North Yorkshire (Leeming?) 23rd 1991: ~1046 mbar Channel/southern England 25th January 1905: 1052 mbar 'SW Britain' 28th 1932: 'slightly over 1050 mbar' over 'parts of England' 26th: noted at the time as the highest in the Midlands for over 50 years. 1989: 1045.9 mbar Plymouth (Mount Batten) 30th and 1045.8 mbar Culdrose (Cornwall); in the London area, 1045 mbar, only 3 mbar away from 40yr maximum value (for LWC???) Stephen's got a couple of papers coming out shortly in 'Weather' on extreme pressure values in the British Isles ... I believe he's away from usenet just at the moment but he'll no doubt answer the question properly as soon as he's back. From memory, I think the England record is about 1052-1053mbar somewhere near the Scottish border in 1902. I'm also aware that London and the SE is the only part of the UK never (during the instrumental record) to have reached 1050mbar. Philip |
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Guildford 19/12/06 18:48Z
Wind ENE 0.9kt Temp 2.9°C Dewpt 2.3°C Baro 1038.4mb Rising Slowly Rain 0.0mm Min 1.2°C at 5:58Z Max 3.6°C at 14:50Z LP 1033.4mb at 0:00Z HP 1038.4mb at 18:44Z Yearly High Pressure achieved beating 2006 HP 22 Jan 06 1037.7 mb Phil |
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Have you a Scottish figure on record ?
Fred "Martin Rowley" m wrote in message ... Phil Layton wrote: Looks like my 2006 HP High will get smashed next weekend with1045+mb on the charts "Jonathan Stott" wrote in message ... Out of interest, what's the highest pressure that's been recorded in England? ... we really need Philip Eden or Stephen Burt to sort this out for us, but I've found the following for December & January (the two months with the highest mslp BI-wide), so they give a 'flavour' of the sort of values we might be looking at (but not claiming that these represent 'records' for England):- December 1962: 1048 mbar North Yorkshire (Leeming?) 23rd 1991: ~1046 mbar Channel/southern England 25th January 1905: 1052 mbar 'SW Britain' 28th 1932: 'slightly over 1050 mbar' over 'parts of England' 26th: noted at the time as the highest in the Midlands for over 50 years. 1989: 1045.9 mbar Plymouth (Mount Batten) 30th and 1045.8 mbar Culdrose (Cornwall); in the London area, 1045 mbar, only 3 mbar away from 40yr maximum value (for LWC???) Martin. -- FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm and http://booty.org.uk/booty.weather/metindex.htm |
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![]() "fred" wrote in message ... Have you a Scottish figure on record ? Fred .... I believe that the Scottish record is also still the British Isles record: I have the following .... 1054.9 mbar at Coupar Angus, Perthshire on 31st January, 1902. (Quoted by Philip Eden in 2003, from a list prepared by Stephen Burt) Martin. -- FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm and http://booty.org.uk/booty.weather/metindex.htm |
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"Martin Rowley" wrote:
"fred" wrote: Have you a Scottish figure on record ? ... I believe that the Scottish record is also still the British Isles record: I have the following .... 1054.9 mbar at Coupar Angus, Perthshire on 31st January, 1902. In advance of his forthcoming papers on extreme pressures, Stephen Burt has already given us an account of how most previously published mentions of the UK (and therefore also the Scottish) record are wrong ... in a Letter to the Editor in 'Weather' for July 2006. The true record is 1053.3mbar at Aberdeen observatory on 31 January 1902. Can I commend Stephen's letter as required reading to all who are interested in the recording of extreme values, and how errors can be perpetuated by all concerned, from the Met Office all the way down to your ever so 'umble servant, for over a century. Philip |
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![]() Martin Rowley wrote: ... I believe that the Scottish record is also still the British Isles record: I have the following .... 1054.9 mbar at Coupar Angus, Perthshire on 31st January, 1902. (Quoted by Philip Eden in 2003, from a list prepared by Stephen Burt) Martin. Tch Martin. And I know you read my note in July's Weather because you mentioned it in this very newsgroup! Scottish and British Isles record is 1053.6 mbar at Aberdeen Observatory at 2200 GMT on 31 January 1902. The record was previously incorrectly quoted for over 80 years as 1054.7 mbar, owing to the use of an incorrect conversion value from inches of mercury to millibars. The England and Wales record is 1053.1 mbar, not as you might expect somewhere in northern England on the above date, but at Falmouth Observatory in Cornwall 11h on 28 January 1905. Highest values on record for the London area (over 200 years record) are 1049.1 mbar at Kew Observatory at 11h on 18 January 1882, 1048.4 mbar at Greenwich on 9 Jan 1825 and 1048.3 mbar at Camden Square on 28/29 Jan 1905. Within the last 100 years the highest has been 1047.3 mbar at Heathrow at 0900 GMT on 7 February 1964. Philip is correct - look out for the January and February issues of Weather for much more information and synoptic descriptions of these events and other extremes of barometric pressure in the British Isles and North Atlantic. Stephen |
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![]() "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote : The true record is 1053.3mbar at Aberdeen observatory on 31 January 1902. Whoops ... 1053.6mbar. I can't even copy straight from the page. pe |
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