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Default MetO - False impression of accuracy.

There's certainly loads of detail on the MetO site, but detail is
different to accruacy.

I noticed that the weather warning for SW England stated the strongest
winds would be in Devon, Somerset & Dorset rather than Cornwall, so I
went to http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html and
checked the various locations.

I checked Penzance - Strongest winds 46mph 09:00 on 11th, checked
Salcombe, strongest winds 46 mph 09:00 on 11th , checked Lizard,
Newquay, Plymouth - all the same - at which point I gave up. Not just
identical wind speed, but also at the same time for places 100 miles
apart.

If the MetO seriously think that the strongest winds at Salcombe
tomorrow will be identical to those on the Lizard point I think they
should buy some more seaweed.

The serious point here is that all this detail isn't justified, it just
looks good until you dig a bit.

Graham
Penzance


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In message .com,
Graham Easterling writes
There's certainly loads of detail on the MetO site, but detail is
different to accruacy.

I noticed that the weather warning for SW England stated the strongest
winds would be in Devon, Somerset & Dorset rather than Cornwall, so I
went to http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html and
checked the various locations.

I checked Penzance - Strongest winds 46mph 09:00 on 11th, checked
Salcombe, strongest winds 46 mph 09:00 on 11th , checked Lizard,
Newquay, Plymouth - all the same - at which point I gave up. Not just
identical wind speed, but also at the same time for places 100 miles
apart.

If the MetO seriously think that the strongest winds at Salcombe
tomorrow will be identical to those on the Lizard point I think they
should buy some more seaweed.

The serious point here is that all this detail isn't justified, it just
looks good until you dig a bit.

Graham
Penzance


Well said, Graham. I've been banging on about this for years.

Norman
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Norman Lynagh wrote:
In message .com,
Graham Easterling writes
There's certainly loads of detail on the MetO site, but detail is
different to accruacy.

I noticed that the weather warning for SW England stated the strongest
winds would be in Devon, Somerset & Dorset rather than Cornwall, so I
went to http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html and
checked the various locations.

I checked Penzance - Strongest winds 46mph 09:00 on 11th, checked
Salcombe, strongest winds 46 mph 09:00 on 11th , checked Lizard,
Newquay, Plymouth - all the same - at which point I gave up. Not just
identical wind speed, but also at the same time for places 100 miles
apart.

If the MetO seriously think that the strongest winds at Salcombe
tomorrow will be identical to those on the Lizard point I think they
should buy some more seaweed.

The serious point here is that all this detail isn't justified, it just
looks good until you dig a bit.


Well said, Graham. I've been banging on about this for years.


So it isn't just the move to new servers or faulty input by
schoolchildren?

Some of the data on hurricanes is faulty too but sending a form in to
tell them is a real pain in the postillion.

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Graham

David Braine on Spotlight weather yesterday did say that the strongest
winds (gusts) today would probably be to the east of high ground such
as the Exe Valley. How true that has turned out to be I don't know.

I recorded a gust of 48 mph earlier this morning which isn't really
that big a deal given the forecast.
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Nick G wrote:

Graham

David Braine on Spotlight weather yesterday did say that the strongest
winds (gusts) today would probably be to the east of high ground such
as the Exe Valley. How true that has turned out to be I don't know.

I recorded a gust of 48 mph earlier this morning which isn't really
that big a deal given the forecast.
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So far the strongest gusts in the SW seem to be in the usual spots,
E.g. 66mph near Land's End, 64mph at Portland (56mph so far in
Penzance), so nothing extreme.

Nothing like as severe as the gales in December as far as Cornwall is
concerned. Swell currently 15'-20' at Sevenstones compared to the
exceptional 25'-30' on a couple of occasions in December.

Graham
Penzance



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