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Default Solent MRSC 23.1°C warmest - Pembrey Sands 32 mm wettest

Meteosat 8 satellite picture from Ferdinand Valk's site at 12.00 UTC
on Monday 4th June
http://www.fvalk.com/images/Day_imag...8-1200-EUR.jpg

NOAA 18 satellite picture from Bernard Burton's site at 13.42 UTC on
Monday 4th June
http://www.woksat.info/etcpf04/pf04-1342-b-uk.html

Meteosat MSG-1 satellite picture from Bernard Burton's site at 12.00
UTC on Monday 4th June
http://www.woksat.info/etcpf04m/pf04-msg-1200-uk.html

Frontal cloud from Scotland to eastern Ireland but sunny behind it.
Rather cloudy in southern England and the south Midlands but sunny in
east Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. Cloudy in the centre of Belgium but
brighter in the west and SE.


UK min. temps on Sunday night http://tinyurl.com/2nuk4j

Glenanne 8.2°C, Dishforth 8.0°C, Topcliffe 7.8°C, South Uist
7.7°C, Sennybridge 7.4°C, Loftus and Copley 7.3°C, St Angelo
7.1°C, Stornoway 6.5°C, Castlederg 4.7°C.


UK max. temps on Monday http://tinyurl.com/yqsxrg

London MO 21.1°C, Keswick 21.2°C, Herstmonceux 21.4°C, Plymouth
21.5°C, Hawarden and Great Malvern 21.6°C, Bournemouth 21.7°C,
Pembrey Sands 22.0°C, Crosby 22.4°C, Solent MRSC 23.1°C.

OGIMET summary http://tinyurl.com/ywqw8v


Rainfall radar http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&soort=loop24uur&URL
or
http://www.meteo24.com/uk/index.php?q=radar

Rain band over western Britain shrinks and breaks up on Sunday night.

Rainfall totals http://tinyurl.com/293bgp

Altnaharra, West Freugh, Dundrennan, Warcop Range, Bingley and
Plymouth 3 mm, Aviemore 4 mm, St Bees Head 5 mm, Tain Range 8 mm,
Tulloch Bridge 10 mm, Pembrey Sands 32 mm.


Location of some UK stations http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/education/data/uk_map.html


Colin Youngs
Brussels


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Solent MRSC seem to get the highest temperature on too many occasions,
has this site been verified recently?

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"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
ups.com...
Solent MRSC seem to get the highest temperature on too many occasions,
has this site been verified recently?


Our very own Dave Ludlow investigated it recently, e.g.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...7b9e50b395125a

If Dave's happy then I'm happy ;-)

Jon.


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On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 22:55:31 +0100, "Jon O'Rourke"
wrote:

"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
oups.com...
Solent MRSC seem to get the highest temperature on too many occasions,
has this site been verified recently?


Our very own Dave Ludlow investigated it recently, e.g.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...7b9e50b395125a

If Dave's happy then I'm happy ;-)

Well Jon I was happy on that occasion but I do intend to repeat the
exercise again, with a bit more precision, when the conditions are
right and I can spare the time.

One thing I didn't think of when I made that first check was the
screen type - it appears to be a half-size Stevenson Screen (probably
made of wood) i.e. one designed, I think, for electronic instruments.
I'd imagine that half-size screens are slightly more susceptible to
the effects of solar radiation in light winds than full size screens
i.e. those designed for a full set of manually read instruments. The
screen is also sheltered from NW, N, NE and E winds by the adjacent
coastguard buildings. So the site is not ideal and I think the two
factors I just mentioned may sometimes exaggerate the local "hot spot"
effect that I noted previously.

Here is a photo I took of the site, looking North West:
http://www.daveludlow.com/weather/solentmrsc_1828.jpg

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Dave
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Thanks Dave,

Looking at the picture you posted, the screen looks far to close to
the surrounding buildings which would make it a mini sun-trap with
temperatures several degrees higher than if there was free movement of
air from all directions.

I can't understand how values from this site can be classed as
'official'.




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On 5 Jun, 04:42, Dave Ludlow
wrote:
One thing I didn't think of when I made that first check was the
screen type - it appears to be a half-size Stevenson Screen (probably
made of wood) i.e. one designed, I think, for electronic instruments.
I'd imagine that half-size screens are slightly more susceptible to
the effects of solar radiation in light winds than full size screens
i.e. those designed for a full set of manually read instruments.


Hi, Dave,

My Stevenson Screens are the same as that one, as are a lot more in
the observing sector. They are all acceptable to the Met O. and hold
a full set of manual instruments with plenty of room to spare.
The Copley screens do not seem to suffer from over heating!
I think the problem is probably the close proximity of the white
buildings and I would hope that the Met O do not take the readings too
seriously.
Sites like this, and a few more I know, will certainly help the GW
enthusiasts!!

Ken
Copley 253metres asl, nr Barnard Castle, Teesdale, County Durham
http://copley.mysite.orange.co.uk



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