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Some people may be interested in my paper published in 2002 "A historical study
of extreme rainfall events in the 20th Century" Report number 384, 2002 available at http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...ical_reports/i ndex.html One can learn an awful lot by looking back! Will. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Will Hand wrote:
Some people may be interested in my paper published in 2002 "A historical study of extreme rainfall events in the 20th Century" Report number 384, 2002 available at http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...ical_reports/i ndex.html One can learn an awful lot by looking back! In the list of notable rainfall events is Fleet (Hampshire) 26/09/33. Was there once an official weather station in Fleet? If so do you know where it was and what happened to it? -- Brian Wakem (in Fleet) Email: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/b.wakem/myemail.png |
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![]() Will Hand wrote: Some people may be interested in my paper published in 2002: "A historical study of extreme rainfall events in the 20th Century" Report number 384, 2002 available at: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...rts/index.html Care to check your newsreader settings so you can post links properly. Or should I be using what Microsoft passes for a browser? http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...rts/index.html got me to the archive index but why not give the direct link? javascript:showAbs("2002/FRTR384/ABSFRTR384.html"); http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...84/FRTR384.pdf I've got MSN Explorer working on it now. It's like waiting for Godot to wade through sludge. Bloody hell it actually opened that javascript link: A historical study of extreme rainfall events in the 20th Century Will H. Hand Extreme rainfall events by their very nature are rare but common enough to require consideration of the possibility and associated serious flood risk by DEFRA. It is therefore vital that signals of the possibility of such events occurring in any given region be recognised as early as possible, preferably 24 hours or more in advance. The primary aim of this study was to examine events in the 20th century in order to ascertain any common hydrological and meteorological features that could be used operationally to provide early recognition of the possibility of an extreme rainfall event that could lead to serious flooding. *** Perhaps the MetO should convert to international standards so that in emergencies all computers can retrieve their data. It's not as if open source is going to ruin the drive to make the MetO pay for itself is it? Or is there an intention to put DRM in the mix? |
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Weatherlawyer wrote:
Will Hand wrote: Some people may be interested in my paper published in 2002: "A historical study of extreme rainfall events in the 20th Century" Report number 384, 2002 available at: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...rts/index.html Care to check your newsreader settings so you can post links properly. Or should I be using what Microsoft passes for a browser? http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...rts/index.html got me to the archive index but why not give the direct link? javascript:showAbs("2002/FRTR384/ABSFRTR384.html"); http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...84/FRTR384.pdf Thanks for that link, Michael. Will's link just stalled on me - after I'd pasted it together - although it's now working. Presumably it couldn't cope with the sudden heavy demand from uk.sci.weather readers yesterday. -- Graham P Davis Bracknell, Berks., UK Send e-mails to "newsman" as mails to "newsboy" are ignored. |
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On 21 Jul, 22:34, Brian Wakem wrote:
In the list of notable rainfall events is Fleet (Hampshire) 26/09/33. Was there once an official weather station in Fleet? If so do you know where it was and what happened to it? In 1933 there were three official raingauges in Fleet. One, Fleet (Home Wood), recorded 131.1 mm, almost all of which fell in about 4 hours, in a very localised thundery downpour (at South Farnborough, just 8 km away, only 7 mm fell). Other totals from the area on this date: Fleet (Crookham) 107.9 mm Fleet (Winchfield) 102.1 mm Hook (Nateley Hatch) 62.5 mm Greywell 62.2 mm Odiham S Wks 61.5 mm Upton Grey 51.1 mm South Warnborough 52.8 mm Rotherwick (Tylney Hall) 71.4 mm Hartley Wintney Council Offices 99.1 mm Bramley (Street Farm House) 68.6 mm Stratfield Turgis 62.5 mm Heckfield 38.9 mm All but the last are from British Rainfall 1933, and daily records for all of these sites will be available in the Met Office archive in Exeter. There's also a map of this famously localised intense storm in BR 1933 (p 69). I suspect the density of raingauges for analysing the July 2007 events will be nothing like as good as the network in 1933, more's the pity ... Stephen Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire (and just over the Hampshire border) |
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In the Maidenhead-Reading area...
-- Rainfall of 20 July 2007 Total Location Total Total to 09Z after 09Z 69.0 Reading University 26.5 42.5 98.6 Maidenhead 70.2 28.4 63.7 Wokingham 24.5 39.2 63.6 Henley-o-T (St Marks Rd) 81.1 Stratfield Mortimer 25.8 55.3 50.5 Middle Assendon 23.1 27.4 79.5 Sindlesham 78.3 Bagshot 59 Henley-on-Thames 64.1 Shiplake (32.1) (32.0) Between 0730BST and 0833BST 51mm of rain fell in Maidenhead, probably the largest hourly total in the town since 92mm fell in 60 minutes at a raingauge at Maidenhead-Lowood on 12 July 1901 The latter fall is still the UK record for a 60-minute fall!! On 12 July 1901 a total of 107.7mm fell at The Firs, Maidenhead - the wettest rainfall day on record in Maidenhead. Stephen Burt wrote: On 21 Jul, 22:34, Brian Wakem wrote: In the list of notable rainfall events is Fleet (Hampshire) 26/09/33. Was there once an official weather station in Fleet? If so do you know where it was and what happened to it? In 1933 there were three official raingauges in Fleet. One, Fleet (Home Wood), recorded 131.1 mm, almost all of which fell in about 4 hours, in a very localised thundery downpour (at South Farnborough, just 8 km away, only 7 mm fell). Other totals from the area on this date: Fleet (Crookham) 107.9 mm Fleet (Winchfield) 102.1 mm Hook (Nateley Hatch) 62.5 mm Greywell 62.2 mm Odiham S Wks 61.5 mm Upton Grey 51.1 mm South Warnborough 52.8 mm Rotherwick (Tylney Hall) 71.4 mm Hartley Wintney Council Offices 99.1 mm Bramley (Street Farm House) 68.6 mm Stratfield Turgis 62.5 mm Heckfield 38.9 mm All but the last are from British Rainfall 1933, and daily records for all of these sites will be available in the Met Office archive in Exeter. There's also a map of this famously localised intense storm in BR 1933 (p 69). I suspect the density of raingauges for analysing the July 2007 events will be nothing like as good as the network in 1933, more's the pity ... Stephen Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire (and just over the Hampshire border) |
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On Jul 23, 10:31 am, Stephen Burt wrote:
On 21 Jul, 22:34, Brian Wakem wrote: In the list of notable rainfall events is Fleet (Hampshire) 26/09/33. Was there once an official weather station in Fleet? If so do you know where it was and what happened to it? In 1933 there were three official raingauges in Fleet. One, Fleet (Home Wood), recorded 131.1 mm, almost all of which fell in about 4 hours, in a very localised thundery downpour (at South Farnborough, just 8 km away, only 7 mm fell). Other totals from the area on this date: Fleet (Crookham) 107.9 mm Fleet (Winchfield) 102.1 mm Hook (Nateley Hatch) 62.5 mm Greywell 62.2 mm Odiham S Wks 61.5 mm Upton Grey 51.1 mm South Warnborough 52.8 mm Rotherwick (Tylney Hall) 71.4 mm Hartley Wintney Council Offices 99.1 mm Bramley (Street Farm House) 68.6 mm Stratfield Turgis 62.5 mm Heckfield 38.9 mm All but the last are from British Rainfall 1933, and daily records for all of these sites will be available in the Met Office archive in Exeter. There's also a map of this famously localised intense storm in BR 1933 (p 69). I suspect the density of rain gauges for analysing the July 2007 events will be nothing like as good as the network in 1933, more's the pity ... Schools used to have weather stations but no longer, due to vandalism. What government agency has taken on such a mantle of irresponsibility? |
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