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No one seems to have mentioned the obvious idea of constructing
buildings on "stilts".

A quick Google search brought these examples:

http://digitalgladrags.com/photofocu...boat-house.jpg

http://www.hbp.usm.my/conservation/M...s/malaysun.jpg

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/YOU'D%20NEVER%20BELIEVE/Broad%20Channel/ROCKWYHS.JPG

http://www.ndmindia.nic.in/EQProject...wnersguide.pdf

Notice that most of these pictures are from the so called "third
world". Why is it rocket science in Britain?

Jack


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On 23 Jul, 15:37, "Jack )"
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No one seems to have mentioned the obvious idea of constructing
buildings on "stilts".

A quick Google search brought these examples:

....

Notice that most of these pictures are from the so called "third
world". Why is it rocket science in Britain?

Jack


There's a hotel not far from here that's effectively built on stilts -
the Sindlesham Moat House hotel, just south of Reading. It was built
about 20 years ago right on the banks of the Loddon: if I remember
correctly the stilts were required for planning permission in this
very flood-prone spot. The stilts have been required on quite a number
of occasions since then; in October 2000 the hotel was marooned for
several days and accessible only by boat for quite a while, but to the
best of my knowledge most of the structure remained aboive the peak
flood level. Pity the cars in the car park, though ...

Stephen
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"Jack )" wrote in
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No one seems to have mentioned the obvious idea of constructing
buildings on "stilts".

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The doctors' surgery in Bewdley, which is near the river, is constructed in
this precise way. In 2000 flood waters engulfed the area, but the building
was not damaged. Now the flood defences are in operation, the stilts are
unnecessary, but they certainly did their job in 2000!

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Jack ) wrote:

No one seems to have mentioned the obvious idea of constructing
buildings on "stilts".

A quick Google search brought these examples:

http://digitalgladrags.com/photofocu...boat-house.jpg

http://www.hbp.usm.my/conservation/M...s/malaysun.jpg


http://www.forgotten-ny.com/YOU'D%20NEVER%20BELIEVE/Broad%20Channel/ROCKWYHS.JPG

http://www.ndmindia.nic.in/EQProject...wnersguide.pdf

Notice that most of these pictures are from the so called "third
world". Why is it rocket science in Britain?


A listener to Five-live Breakfast - or was it Wake-up-to-money? - sent this
suggestion in to the program but the presenter who read it out thought it
was a joke.

However, another listener had pointed out that ground floors of new houses
had been made lower than before so as to make it easier to comply with
disabled-access legislation. Imagine the ramps you'd need for a house on
stilts!

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David Buttery wrote in
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The doctors' surgery in Bewdley, which is near the river, is
constructed in this precise way. In 2000 flood waters engulfed the
area, but the building was not damaged. Now the flood defences are in
operation, the stilts are unnecessary, but they certainly did their
job in 2000!


Here is a rather small photo of the library, which occupies the other side
of the same building:

http://worcestershire.whub.org.uk/home/lib-bewdley.jpg

As you can see, the floor isn't raised *that* much off the ground (though
it's a bit more the other side, as the ground slopes) but in 2000 it made
all the difference.

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Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.


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On 23 Jul, 17:29, Graham P Davis wrote:

However, another listener had pointed out that ground floors of new houses
had been made lower than before so as to make it easier to comply with
disabled-access legislation. Imagine the ramps you'd need for a house on
stilts!


Extrapolating that argument, it would mean that the disabled could
never be housed above ground level. Plenty of disabled people live in
flats and use (stair)lifts. OK, lifts would pose problems when it's
flooded but it cannot be a insuperable difficulty.

Jack

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ups.com...
No one seems to have mentioned the obvious idea of constructing
buildings on "stilts".

A quick Google search brought these examples:

http://digitalgladrags.com/photofocu...boat-house.jpg

http://www.hbp.usm.my/conservation/M...s/malaysun.jpg

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/YOU'D%20NEVER%20BELIEVE/Broad%20Channel/ROCKWYHS.JPG

http://www.ndmindia.nic.in/EQProject...wnersguide.pdf

Notice that most of these pictures are from the so called "third
world". Why is it rocket science in Britain?

Jack


Well I don't what sort of house you live in Jack, but if it's anything like
those third world marvels , well god help you. They all look like very badly
built timber construction I doubt they are protected internally from fire
(usually plaster) none of them would pass building control.



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makes you wonder how the power companies can get away with not protecting
their important substations with flood walls same goes for the water
authorities and their pumping stations

Also why on earth don't we have some decent culverts like you see in Spain

Bring back the Victorian engineers they would know what to do

mike


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wrote in message
ups.com...
No one seems to have mentioned the obvious idea of constructing
buildings on "stilts".

A quick Google search brought these examples:

http://digitalgladrags.com/photofocu...boat-house.jpg

http://www.hbp.usm.my/conservation/M...s/malaysun.jpg

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/YOU'D%20NEVER%20BELIEVE/Broad%20Channel/ROCKWYHS.JPG

http://www.ndmindia.nic.in/EQProject...wnersguide.pdf

Notice that most of these pictures are from the so called "third
world". Why is it rocket science in Britain?

Jack


Well I don't what sort of house you live in Jack, but if it's anything
like those third world marvels , well god help you. They all look like
very badly built timber construction I doubt they are protected internally
from fire (usually plaster) none of them would pass building control.





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On Jul 23, 5:40?pm, "Jack )"
wrote:
On 23 Jul, 17:29, Graham P Davis wrote:

However, another listener had pointed out that ground floors of new houses
had been made lower than before so as to make it easier to comply with
disabled-access legislation. Imagine the ramps you'd need for a house on
stilts!


Extrapolating that argument, it would mean that the disabled could
never be housed above ground level. Plenty of disabled people live in
flats and use (stair)lifts. OK, lifts would pose problems when it's
flooded but it cannot be a insuperable difficulty.


As it happens some of the oldest wooden houses in the country were
built on rocky outcrops some 3 feet above the surrounding soil thus
taking them out of the water table abd giving them some flood
resistance.

Of course in those days utilising crown bare sides of hills was the
norm so there never was a chance of flood in the first place.

I am watch Newsnight ATM and some expert is being taken to task
overthe disposition of flood defences. He can't seem to get it through
the skulls of his assailants that there is no defence from such
floods.

Don't people know how long rivers are and how they work or something?
Do they think they are just city features that are in a constant
change, like fountains in watergardens only bigger?

Feck me there are some wazzocks around.


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"flybywire" wrote in
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Bring back the Victorian engineers they would know what to do


According to the BBC, the Severn Trent plant in Tewkesbury is in fact a
hundred years old - so is Victorian, or near enough.

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Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.


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