A bit of sense:


"You can say that due to the Earth getting warmer there will be on average more
extreme events," said Dr Malcolm Haylock, an expert on climate extremes, "but
you can't attribute any specific event to climate change."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6915309.stm

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Gianna

http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk
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"You can say that due to the Earth getting warmer there will be on
average more extreme events," said Dr Malcolm Haylock, an expert on
climate extremes, "but you can't attribute any specific event to climate
change."

That takes 'sitting on the fence' to a new extreme; does he work for the Env
Agency........
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Nick G
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

In message , Nick Gardner
writes
"You can say that due to the Earth getting warmer there will be on
average more extreme events," said Dr Malcolm Haylock, an expert on
climate extremes, "but you can't attribute any specific event to climate
change."

That takes 'sitting on the fence' to a new extreme; does he work for the Env
Agency........
________________
Nick G
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

It sounds like a very sensible comment to me.

I've had several approaches from the media over the past few days,
mostly wanting me to say that the recent floods are a direct result of
global warming. My response has been that a single extreme event cannot
be directly attributed to global warming.

All weather that we now experience, benign and extreme, occurs in a
global climate that has warmed a little compared to 50 years ago but
it's huge leap to go on to say that any specific event would not have
occurred if that warming had not taken place.

Norman.
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Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l.
England

On Jul 25, 9:33?pm, Norman Lynagh normanthis...@thisbitweather-
consultancy.com wrote:
In message , Nick Gardner
writes

"You can say that due to the Earth getting warmer there will be on
average more extreme events," said Dr Malcolm Haylock, an expert on
climate extremes, "but you can't attribute any specific event to climate
change."

That takes 'sitting on the fence' to a new extreme; does he work for the Env
Agency........
________________
Nick G
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

It sounds like a very sensible comment to me.

I've had several approaches from the media over the past few days,
mostly wanting me to say that the recent floods are a direct result of
global warming. My response has been that a single extreme event cannot
be directly attributed to global warming.

All weather that we now experience, benign and extreme, occurs in a
global climate that has warmed a little compared to 50 years ago but
it's huge leap to go on to say that any specific event would not have
occurred if that warming had not taken place.

Not as great as the conclusion of Newsnight just now; which mentioned
a study showed that teenagers would commit most of the vices committed
by young people.

I wish I could get a job doing surveys like that -or is it that they
are paying peanuts?

How did they rule out 1 to 12 year olds, I wonder?

"Gianna" wrote in message
...
A bit of sense:


"You can say that due to the Earth getting warmer there will be on
average more extreme events," said Dr Malcolm Haylock, an expert on
climate extremes, "but you can't attribute any specific event to
climate change."


Which is actually what most informed parties, media and politicians
excepted, have been saying. However media and politicians need
something to blame for each event.

Tom

On Jul 25, 6:58 pm, Gianna wrote:
A bit of sense:

"You can say that due to the Earth getting warmer there will be on average more
extreme events," said Dr Malcolm Haylock, an expert on climate extremes, "but
you can't attribute any specific event to climate change."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6915309.stm

--
Gianna

http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk
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Why should there be more extreme events unless variability
increases as well as temperature. Relative to a fixed mean there will
obviously be more extremely hot days but fewer extremely cold ones.
It seems to be taken for granted that there will be an increase in
variability (interannual or on a shorter timescale) but no-one has
explained why. It has definitely got warmer but has there been an
increase in variability shown by a strict statistical analysis?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey

On Jul 26, 4:04 am, Tudor Hughes wrote:

Why should there be more extreme events unless variability increases
as well as temperature?

How can they even say these things are more extreme; since the damage
done is covering old ground that in previous, less well documented
events, would have been relatively empty?


Relative to a fixed mean there will obviously be more extremely hot days but
fewer extremely cold ones. It seems to be taken for granted that there will be
an increase in variability (interannual or on a shorter timescale) but no-one has
explained why. It has definitely got warmer but has there been an increase in
variability shown by a strict statistical analysis?

So are we getting extreme cold events as well as extreme heat related
ones too?

I was unde the impression whatever happens, cold or hot, it was a de
facto proof of glowballs. So when there was a record number of
hurricanes, that was glowballs, now they are scarce, that is glowballs
too.

Some fixed datum.

In fact we can't even say for sure that overall things have got
hotter. An hotter sea surface in the northern parts of the Atlantic
and Pacific will cause ice melt in smaller seas such as The Arctic.
But what is happening in the 4 or 5 miles of ocean depths earth wide?