Andrew Neill - a respected journalist - stated on his BBC lunchtime show on,
I think, Thursday, that "Average global temperatures have fallen in each of
the last ten years by an average of 0.3 degrees C". He quoted four sources
including NASA.

Comments from knowledgable subscribers would be appreciated.

Eric

Eric Ingham wrote:
Andrew Neill - a respected journalist

Brillo Pad is respected? By who?

In any case, he clearly thinks it's too warm, judging by the vest he's
wearing...
http://www.pootergeek.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Brillo.jpg

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Neil Sunderland
Braunton, Devon

Please observe the Reply-To address

"Neil Sunderland" wrote in message
...
Eric Ingham wrote:
Andrew Neill - a respected journalist

Brillo Pad is respected? By who?

In any case, he clearly thinks it's too warm, judging by the vest he's
wearing...
http://www.pootergeek.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Brillo.jpg

--
Neil Sunderland
Braunton, Devon

Please observe the Reply-To address

He quoted what seemed to be reputable sources including NASA - perhaps Mr
Sunderland will discount them as biassed Americans

EI

On Jun 9, 12:00*am, "Eric Ingham" wrote:
Andrew Neill - a respected journalist - stated on his BBC lunchtime show on,
I think, Thursday, that "Average global temperatures have fallen in each of
the last ten years by an average of 0.3 degrees C". He quoted four sources
including NASA.

Comments from knowledgable subscribers would be appreciated.

Eric

Repsected journalist maybe, but hardly a respected
meteorologist. If what he says is true the temperature will have
fallen 3°C since 1998, indicating the onset of something rather
fearsome and what's more taking the graph right off scale low. There
are few numerate journalists and he would not seem to be one of them.
Something nearer the truth can be seen he
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/temp/jo...ics/nhshgl.jpg

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

In message , Eric Ingham
writes
Andrew Neill - a respected journalist - stated on his BBC lunchtime show on,
I think, Thursday, that "Average global temperatures have fallen in each of
the last ten years by an average of 0.3 degrees C". He quoted four sources
including NASA.

Comments from knowledgable subscribers would be appreciated.

Eric


That appears to be a claim that temperatures have fallen by 3 degrees
over the last 10 years. That would be ridiculously incorrect. So I
presume that something else is meant, but I'm baffled as to what. The
average of post-1998 record is, estimated by eye, about 0.1 degrees
below the 1998 figure.

The fall between 1998 and 2007 is about 0.15 degrees. If you select 1995
or 2000 as your starting point instead, there is a rise of over 0.15
degrees. (Interannual variation in temperatures is of comparable
magnitude.)
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

in 31505 20080609 000021 "Eric Ingham" wrote:
Andrew Neill - a respected journalist - stated on his BBC lunchtime show on,
I think, Thursday, that "Average global temperatures have fallen in each of
the last ten years by an average of 0.3 degrees C". He quoted four sources
including NASA.

Comments from knowledgable subscribers would be appreciated.

Eric

Global warming and global cooling are separate processes and both are ongoing.
Each tends to masks the effects of the other. Sometimes one is dominant and
sometimes the other ...

On 9 Jun, 09:18, Bob Martin wrote:
in 31505 20080609 000021 "Eric Ingham" wrote:

Andrew Neill - a respected journalist - stated on his BBC lunchtime show on,
I think, Thursday, that "Average global temperatures have fallen in each of
the last ten years by an average of 0.3 degrees C". He quoted four sources
including NASA.

Comments from knowledgable subscribers would be appreciated.

Eric

Global warming and global cooling are separate processes and both are ongoing.
Each tends to masks the effects of the other. *Sometimes one is dominant and
sometimes the other ...

So the status quo is maintained. That's all right then - isn't it?

CK

Eric Ingham wrote:

Andrew Neill - a respected journalist - stated on his BBC lunchtime show
on, I think, Thursday, that "Average global temperatures have fallen in
each of the last ten years by an average of 0.3 degrees C". He quoted four
sources including NASA.


Andrew Neill is only respected by himself.

There have been two years that were warmer than 1998 - 2005 and 2007. Taking
running means to smooth out the graph shows me that temperatures are still
rising and the rate of that rise is 0.25C per decade.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.

"Natsman" wrote in message
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On 9 Jun, 09:18, Bob Martin wrote:
in 31505 20080609 000021 "Eric Ingham"
wrote:

Andrew Neill - a respected journalist - stated on his BBC lunchtime
show on,
I think, Thursday, that "Average global temperatures have fallen in
each of
the last ten years by an average of 0.3 degrees C". He quoted four
sources
including NASA.

.... it's a case of the old journalistic rule: " never let the facts
get in the way of a good story ": see this graph, which is, note, a
NASA based dataset and is widely respected:-

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

1998 was an oddity in some respects, due to the strength of the El
Nino (warm) event that year - the overall trend is upwards - see also
the particular figures he-

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt

Martin.

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