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When is the earliest time that the Midlands could see snowfall?

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I think I can remember back in the late 1960's it snowed and laid in
mid-October in Wolverhampton. I cannot be sure because I was only 7 or 8
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Looking back at records dating back to 1892, we have never had a snow
fall in Coventry during September.

However, we recorded snowfall during October in 1892 (2 days), 1895,
1896, 1909 with snow lying at 0900hr, 1934, & 1941. haven't got exact
dates at home but could look them up on Monday if you need them.
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Hi Steve, I would say snow was virtually impossible in September in the Midlands
due to the seas still being relatively warm. It would need one heck of an Arctic
blast and below average sea temperatures in the north and probably a very heavy
shower to bring down the wet-bulb freezing level. Same would probably go for
July and August as well.
Now you're going to tell me of the great July snowstorm of ....

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When is the earliest time that the Midlands could see snowfall?


Looking back at records dating back to 1892, we have never had a snow
fall in Coventry during September.

However, we recorded snowfall during October in 1892 (2 days), 1895,
1896, 1909 with snow lying at 0900hr, 1934, & 1941. haven't got exact
dates at home but could look them up on Monday if you need them.
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The best known example of September snow happened around the 20th in 1919,
following a spell of exceptional warmth mid-month. According to a book I
have
handy: "... by the morning of the 20th snow covered the ground at low levels
in
Scotland and northern England, with a substantial covering over higher
ground
throughout Wales and also over Exmoor and Dartmoor. Sleet showers were
observed at lower levels as far south as the Thames Valley."

Snow was also seen lying on the slopes of the Black Mountains (SE Wales)
down to an altitude of 1300 feet. The Clee Hills in south Shropshire also
had a covering, and an observer in Herefordshire noted a sprinkling on
the ground at daybreak at 300 ft above sea-level. The higher slopes of
Snowdon were snow-covered for a week.

You can see the surface synoptic chart he

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsslpeur.html

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You can see the surface synoptic chart he

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsslpeur.html


I thought the charts on this site only went back to 1950.
Amazing to see the chart for 1st Jan 1899!

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I thought the charts on this site only went back to 1950.
Amazing to see the chart for 1st Jan 1899!


.... from the main site ( http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/ )

choose: "kartenarchiv", then "Bodendruck" ... a very useful dataset -
presumably (guessing now), based on the NCEP reanalysis project?)

Martin.


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:... from the main site ( http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/ )
:choose: "kartenarchiv", then "Bodendruck" ... a very useful dataset -
resumably (guessing now), based on the NCEP reanalysis project?)


Yes - the site says that the charts are produced from the NCEP reanalysis
project.

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In Coventry, the earliest we have had since I have personally been
observing the weather in the city is 7th November in 1980.

As a contrast, the latest was 22nd January in 1988.

Last year it was 11th December.

We haven't had a November snowfall her since 1996 (19th).
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When is the earliest time that the Midlands could see snowfall?


It depends on what you define as the Midlands! I've been in Malvern and
seen snow in October and I guess other high spots like the Long Mynd and
the Clee Hills get snow early on too.

Jonathan



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