Without being tarred with the same brush as Piers Corbin, could this
current cooler winter have something to do with the lack of sun spot
activity?

Currently there are NO sunspots on our sun today (05/01/09), and 2008
was the least active year since 1900.

http://www.spaceweather.com/images20...osdrcbrl m7o7

http://www.smeter.net/propagation/su...spot-cycle.php

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/3...tends-cooling/

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Without being tarred with the same brush as Piers Corbin, could this
current cooler winter have something to do with the lack of sun spot
activity?

Currently there are NO sunspots on our sun today (05/01/09), and 2008
was the least active year since 1900.

Must be having some effect as the Sun had the least no of sunspots in 2008
for nearly 100 years. The next 12 months will be interesting to see if solar
cycle 24 really kicks off or not. Solar wind has also been lowest recorded
in the last 50 years - plus the Alaskian volcanoes last year..

John

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Without being tarred with the same brush as Piers Corbin, could this
current cooler winter have something to do with the lack of sun spot
activity?

I suppose it's possible. The peak of the Little Ice Age is supposed to
have pretty much coincided with a long period of very low sunspot levels
lasting from 1645 to 1715 known as the Maunder Minimum.
--
John Hall
"It is a very sad thing that nowadays there is so little useless
information."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hall"
Newsgroups: uk.sci.weather
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:09 PM
Subject: Sun Spot Activity


I suppose it's possible. The peak of the Little Ice Age is supposed to
have pretty much coincided with a long period of very low sunspot levels
lasting from 1645 to 1715 known as the Maunder Minimum.


There is certainly speculation that the Sun may be entering another Dalton
minimum - 1790 to 1830 - also a period of lower global temperatires -
certainly looks as if the normal sunspot cycle has been disrupted.

John

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 at 23:11:50, John Horobin
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

From: "John Hall"

I suppose it's possible. The peak of the Little Ice Age is supposed to
have pretty much coincided with a long period of very low sunspot levels
lasting from 1645 to 1715 known as the Maunder Minimum.

There is certainly speculation that the Sun may be entering another Dalton
minimum - 1790 to 1830 - also a period of lower global temperatires -
certainly looks as if the normal sunspot cycle has been disrupted.

Can't wait to see the GW advocates squirm...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In article ,
Paul Hyett writes:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 at 23:11:50, John Horobin
o.uk wrote in uk.sci.weather :

From: "John Hall"

I suppose it's possible. The peak of the Little Ice Age is supposed to
have pretty much coincided with a long period of very low sunspot levels
lasting from 1645 to 1715 known as the Maunder Minimum.

There is certainly speculation that the Sun may be entering another Dalton
minimum - 1790 to 1830 - also a period of lower global temperatires -
certainly looks as if the normal sunspot cycle has been disrupted.

Can't wait to see the GW advocates squirm...

If reduced solar activity should happen to counteract the effects of AGW
over the next few decades, then it's possible that we will have been
very fortunate. But the putative solar downturn won't last for ever, so
should not be used as an excuse for inaction.
--
John Hall
"It is a very sad thing that nowadays there is so little useless
information."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

On 6 Jan, 08:14, Paul Hyett wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 at 23:11:50, John Horobin
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

From: "John Hall"

I suppose it's possible. The peak of the Little Ice Age is supposed to
have pretty much coincided with a long period of very low sunspot levels
lasting from 1645 to 1715 known as the Maunder Minimum.

There is certainly speculation that the Sun may be entering another Dalton
minimum - 1790 to 1830 *- also a period of lower global temperatires -
certainly looks as if the normal sunspot cycle has been disrupted.

Can't wait to see the GW advocates squirm...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

I would have thought, assuming there is a link between sun spot
activity and global cooling, that the fact that globally 2008 was
still significantly warmer than the mean for 1971-2000 despite very
low sun spot activity, is a strong argument in favour of AGW.

Graham
Penzance

On 6 Jan, 12:08, Graham Easterling wrote:
On 6 Jan, 08:14, Paul Hyett wrote:





On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 at 23:11:50, John Horobin
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

From: "John Hall"

I suppose it's possible. The peak of the Little Ice Age is supposed to
have pretty much coincided with a long period of very low sunspot levels
lasting from 1645 to 1715 known as the Maunder Minimum.

There is certainly speculation that the Sun may be entering another Dalton
minimum - 1790 to 1830 *- also a period of lower global temperatires -
certainly looks as if the normal sunspot cycle has been disrupted.

Can't wait to see the GW advocates squirm...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

I would have thought, assuming there is a link between sun spot
activity and global cooling, that the fact that globally 2008 was
still significantly warmer than the mean for 1971-2000 despite very
low sun spot activity, is a strong argument in favour of AGW.

Graham
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Graham,

On one of the websites I was looking at, it said there is about a 5yr
time lag between lower solar activity and lower global temperatures.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 at 10:49:35, John Hall
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

In article ,
Paul Hyett writes:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 at 23:11:50, John Horobin
o.uk wrote in uk.sci.weather :

From: "John Hall"

I suppose it's possible. The peak of the Little Ice Age is supposed to
have pretty much coincided with a long period of very low sunspot levels
lasting from 1645 to 1715 known as the Maunder Minimum.

There is certainly speculation that the Sun may be entering another Dalton
minimum - 1790 to 1830 - also a period of lower global temperatires -
certainly looks as if the normal sunspot cycle has been disrupted.

Can't wait to see the GW advocates squirm...

If reduced solar activity should happen to counteract the effects of AGW
over the next few decades, then it's possible that we will have been
very fortunate. But the putative solar downturn won't last for ever, so
should not be used as an excuse for inaction.

Well, what I know is - I've just recorded my lowest temperature for 22
years...

-10.9C last night!
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In article ,
Paul Hyett writes:
Well, what I know is - I've just recorded my lowest temperature for 22
years...

-10.9C last night!

Congratulations. But hopefully you don't need me to tell you that one
very cold night, or even one very cold winter, does not disprove GW,
even though people like Christopher Booker seem to think that it does.
--
John Hall
"It is a very sad thing that nowadays there is so little useless
information."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)