Having beaten the all time daily rainfall record in Cumbria this year,
is the cold snap going to bring any record low temperatures for the
UK? Surely global warming and El Nino won't allow it? And then there
is a lot of hot air in Copenhagen.
Here are the records that need to be broken:
UK
-27.2C Braemar 10 Jan 1992 and 11 Feb 1895
-27.2C Altnaharra 30 Dec 1995.

England
-25.2C Shawbury, Shrops, 13 Dec 1981
-26.1C Newport, Shrops, 10 Jan 1982

Wembury, SW Devon, -10.1C 13 Jan 1987

Better check your lagging.

Len Wood

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Len Wood writes:
Having beaten the all time daily rainfall record in Cumbria this year,
is the cold snap going to bring any record low temperatures for the
UK?

I doubt it. It looks as though the wind is going to be mostly
north-easterly rather than easterly, so that there will be quite a long
sea track across a still pretty warm North Sea. But if the wind should
fall light with clear skies and a snow cover, then who knows?

Surely global warming and El Nino won't allow it?

But an overall warming of a degree or so, though making it less likely,
doesn't rule it out altogether.

And then there
is a lot of hot air in Copenhagen.
Here are the records that need to be broken:
UK
-27.2C Braemar 10 Jan 1992

1982, I think.

and 11 Feb 1895
-27.2C Altnaharra 30 Dec 1995.

England
-25.2C Shawbury, Shrops, 13 Dec 1981
-26.1C Newport, Shrops, 10 Jan 1982

Wembury, SW Devon, -10.1C 13 Jan 1987

Better check your lagging.

As those dates tend to suggest, really extreme cold before Christmas is
rare. December 1981 was of course the big exception, and a truly
remarkable month which many of us still have fond memories of.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

On Dec 9, 9:10*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article
,
*Len Wood writes:

Having beaten the all time daily rainfall record in Cumbria this year,
is the cold snap going to bring any record low temperatures for the
UK?

I doubt it. It looks as though the wind is going to be mostly
north-easterly rather than easterly, so that there will be quite a long
sea track across a still pretty warm North Sea. But if the wind should
fall light with clear skies and a snow cover, then who knows?

Surely global warming and El Nino won't allow it?

But an overall warming of a degree or so, though making it less likely,
doesn't rule it out altogether.

And then there
is a lot of hot air in Copenhagen.
Here are the records that need to be broken:
UK
-27.2C Braemar 10 Jan 1992

1982, I think.

and 11 Feb 1895
-27.2C Altnaharra 30 Dec 1995.

England
-25.2C Shawbury, Shrops, 13 Dec 1981
-26.1C Newport, Shrops, 10 Jan 1982

Wembury, SW Devon, -10.1C 13 Jan 1987

Better check your lagging.

As those dates tend to suggest, really extreme cold before Christmas is
rare. December 1981 was of course the big exception, and a truly
remarkable month which many of us still have fond memories of.
--
John Hall *"[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
* * * * * * like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
* * * * * * its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

Sorry for the mistype.
Of course Braemar -27.2C was 10 Jan 1982 as you point out John.

Len

"Len Wood" wrote in message
...
Having beaten the all time daily rainfall record in Cumbria this year,
is the cold snap going to bring any record low temperatures for the
UK? Surely global warming and El Nino won't allow it? And then there
is a lot of hot air in Copenhagen.
Here are the records that need to be broken:
UK
-27.2C Braemar 10 Jan 1992 and 11 Feb 1895
-27.2C Altnaharra 30 Dec 1995.

England
-25.2C Shawbury, Shrops, 13 Dec 1981
-26.1C Newport, Shrops, 10 Jan 1982

Wembury, SW Devon, -10.1C 13 Jan 1987

Better check your lagging.

Len Wood



Very, very unofficial, Jan 1977, 6 miles north of Lanark on top of a
mountain (c1000ft ASL near the village of Forth) at an open cast coal site
on their site max/min thermometer.

-28C minimum overnight, -16C maximum the following afternoon.

I know, because I read the thermometer each day, and I was working out in it
all day. Surprised the hell out of me when I saw it, because they had been
about -15C and -5C respectively for several days prior. Snowed like the
clappers a couple of days later, and the only way to get to the site was to
use the bulldozers and excavators to dig our way in. Oh what fun. :-)

jim, Northampton

On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:50:14 -0000, "jbm" wrote:

Very, very unofficial, Jan 1977, 6 miles north of Lanark on top of a
mountain (c1000ft ASL near the village of Forth) at an open cast coal site
on their site max/min thermometer.

Also very, very unofficial, Jan 28th, 1954, at the bottom of a shallow
valley on the east side of Basingstoke, Hampshire with five inches of
lying snow, I recorded -4°F (-20°C). The maximum that day was 27°F
(-2.8°C). The geography master at school took a lot of convincing!

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

In article ,
jbm writes:
Very, very unofficial, Jan 1977, 6 miles north of Lanark on top of a
mountain (c1000ft ASL near the village of Forth) at an open cast coal site
on their site max/min thermometer.

-28C minimum overnight, -16C maximum the following afternoon.

I know, because I read the thermometer each day, and I was working out in it
all day. Surprised the hell out of me when I saw it, because they had been
about -15C and -5C respectively for several days prior. Snowed like the
clappers a couple of days later, and the only way to get to the site was to
use the bulldozers and excavators to dig our way in. Oh what fun. :-)

Was the thermometer in a Stevenson screen?
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

"John Hall" wrote in message
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Was the thermometer in a Stevenson screen?
--

Sort of. It was in a box with slatted doors similar to a Stevenson screen,
but smaller, just to give it some protection, on the outside wall of the
office. From what I can remember it was north-east facing, roughly, because
we used to stand at the door watching the ships in the Firth of Forth, some
20 miles away. From the back of the office we could see the Clyde. It was
only there so we could make diary entries as to the general weather
conditions each day (insurance claims for burst radiators when we forget to
drain them!!!).

The one thing I do remember is that it was bloody cold that day. :-)

jim, Northampton.