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BBC news 24

In interview says "bbq summer" was correct. and media distored it.

also says current "mild" winter lrf is correct and "spot on"??? WTF

yeah currently it may be correct after updating a few days ago to
"cold". instead of "mild"

what a cop out.






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BBC news 24

In interview says "bbq summer" was correct. and media distored it.

also says current "mild" winter lrf is correct and "spot on"??? WTF

yeah currently it may be correct after updating a few days ago to "cold".
instead of "mild"

what a cop out.

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Yeah, bit of a damp squib ;-)







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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:33:27 -0000, "Dave Cornwell"
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"Terry Tibbs" wrote in message
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BBC news 24

In interview says "bbq summer" was correct. and media distored it.

also says current "mild" winter lrf is correct and "spot on"??? WTF

yeah currently it may be correct after updating a few days ago to

"cold".
instead of "mild"

what a cop out.

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Yeah, bit of a damp squib ;-)



I don't suppose he can explain why all the supermarkets were dumping
their BBQ food, booze etc at bargain basement prices throughout
August, Sept' and why Tesco is going to do its own weather forecasting
in future as they all lost a fortune due to a* NOT so* BBQ summer .

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On Jan 9, 11:19*pm, Terry Tibbs wrote:
BBC news 24

In interview says "bbq summer" was correct. and media distored it.


To be fair it probably would have been a barbecue summer in the south
of England and south Midlands at least,) if the sea surface
temperature to the SW of the UK hadn't been so cold; June was good in
any case and August would have been good if the low sea surface temps
hadn't resulted in frequent below-average days. That would have left
July as the only poor month, though even that would have been warm and
wet, rather than cool and wet, with higher sea surface temps.

More seriously, I think that summer night-time temperatures need to be
factored out of these forecasts a bit more, as relatively few people
care about that. Several of these poor recent summer months have ended
up marginally warmer than good summer months of the past, as the
former have had high night and low day temps, and the latter, the
reverse.

Nick



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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:19:06 +0000, Terry Tibbs
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BBC news 24

In interview says "bbq summer" was correct. and media distored it.


The actual forecast was for one very warm week which we did have at
the end of June, and no repeat of the widespread flooding of the
previous 2 years which was also correct. How anyone managed to spin
that into "a barbequeue summer" I have no idea.


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The actual forecast was for one very warm week which we did have at
the end of June, and no repeat of the widespread flooding of the
previous 2 years which was also correct. How anyone managed to spin
that into "a barbequeue summer" I have no idea.


.... it was a phrase contained within the Met Office's own press
release:-

http://www.metoffice.com/corporate/p...r20090430.html

no spinning by the media was required. You may be sure that such
phraseology will be used sparingly in the future; it will take many
years to live it down.

Martin.

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:31:25 -0000, Martin Rowley wrote:

wrote ...
The actual forecast was for one very warm week which we did have at
the end of June, and no repeat of the widespread flooding of the
previous 2 years which was also correct. How anyone managed to spin
that into "a barbequeue summer" I have no idea.


... it was a phrase contained within the Met Office's own press
release:-

http://www.metoffice.com/corporate/p...r20090430.html

no spinning by the media was required. You may be sure that such
phraseology will be used sparingly in the future; it will take many
years to live it down.

Martin.


It was a reasonable summer in St Albans but certainly not of a standard
that press release suggests was probable. It was significantly warmer than
either 2007 or 2008.

The maximum temperature here was 30.1C on the 1st of July ( the only day
30C was exceeded) at the end of what was a good June although 32.7mm of
rain fell on June the 7th.

The Met Office would be well advised to stick to a strictly factaul account
of their views, it may be more boring but there is less risk of egg on
face.

Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
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11/01/2010 09:44:43
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On Monday 11 Jan 2010 09:52, Alan Gardiner scribbled:

The Met Office would be well advised to stick to a strictly factaul
account of their views, it may be more boring but there is less risk of
egg on face.


They've been told that many times over the years so I don't hold out much
hope that their Press Office has learnt the lesson this time.

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:00:44 +0000, Graham P Davis wrote:



They've been told that many times over the years so I don't hold out much
hope that their Press Office has learnt the lesson this time.


Undoubtably true, I was just demonstrating that if they had just said the
summer would be an improvement (assuming you like warm dry weather) on the
preceding two years their sesaonal forecast would have been viewed as
correct at least in the SE of England.


Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
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11/01/2010 10:05:46
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On Jan 11, 10:09*am, Alan Gardiner wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:00:44 +0000, Graham P Davis wrote:

They've been told that many times over the years so I don't hold out much
hope that their Press Office has learnt the lesson this time.


Undoubtably true, I was just demonstrating that if they had just said the
summer would be an improvement (assuming you like warm dry weather) on the
preceding two years their sesaonal forecast would have been viewed as
correct at least in the SE of England.

Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
101m ASL
11/01/2010 10:05:46


I don't thing the press office will be allowed to make such statements
in future, if the Chief Executive has anything too do with it
See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...cs/8443687.stm

Cheers, Alastair.


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