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The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere between
Svarlbad and Western Norway.

IIRC someone posted a link to sea temperatures some time in the middle
of December, this set up was followed by a high pressure system over
the NW Atlantic.

Immediately after the large quake the system returns to a flaccid
"negative anomaly".

Anyone know what was happening aloft at the same time. I have the
Bodendruck charts from way back from WetterZentrale and have no idea
what to do with them. If I know what sort of anomalies to look for I
might.

For our cousins across the way the weather sites to search for are all
in Germany:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...ndruck&spell=1

(Don't mention the war, they might ask us who won.)
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer
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The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere between
Svarlbad and Western Norway.


What the hell does "compression of millibars " mean?



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Hatunen wrote in newsej4l5tip6qka1nq86v08jq9voloa37n5i@
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer
wrote:


The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere between
Svarlbad and Western Norway.


What the hell does "compression of millibars " mean?


At a guess, a close spacing of isobar lines on a barometric pressure
map. This results in a pressure gradient from the area of high pressure
to low pressure. The closer the lines, the higher the wind speed.

What that has to do with earthquakes is only in his mind.

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On Jan 16, 11:38*pm, Hatunen wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer

wrote:

The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere between
Svarlbad and Western Norway.


What the hell does "compression of millibars " mean?


Earthquakes,.in this case.

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On Jan 18, 2:54*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jan 16, 11:38*pm, Hatunen wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer


wrote:


The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere between
Svarlbad and Western Norway.


What the hell does "compression of millibars " mean?


Earthquakes,.in this case.


Can't resist - as you unwisely brought it up:

go on W. Predict one.


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Dawlish wrote:
On Jan 18, 2:54 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jan 16, 11:38 pm, Hatunen wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer


wrote:


The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere
between Svarlbad and Western Norway.


What the hell does "compression of millibars " mean?


Earthquakes,.in this case.


Can't resist - as you unwisely brought it up:

go on W. Predict one.


I'm never quite sure if it's the weather that causes the earthquakes
or the earthquakes that cause the weather.

Did he predict Haiti?
That was something of a biggie....
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:36:15 -0000, "Col"
wrote:

Dawlish wrote:
On Jan 18, 2:54 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jan 16, 11:38 pm, Hatunen wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer

wrote:

The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere
between Svarlbad and Western Norway.

What the hell does "compression of millibars " mean?

Earthquakes,.in this case.


Can't resist - as you unwisely brought it up:

go on W. Predict one.


I'm never quite sure if it's the weather that causes the earthquakes
or the earthquakes that cause the weather.

Did he predict Haiti?
That was something of a biggie....


Thus far, at least as far as I can tell, no one in this newsgroup
has ever made a proper prediction of any significant earthquake,
save for post facto.

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On 16 Jan, 23:38, Hatunen wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer
wrote:

The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere between
Svarlbad and Western Norway.


What the hell does "compression of millibars " mean?


I was looking at the sea level pressures, the sort you might see on
the TV bulletins or in the "better" newspapers.

When the pressures are high for both cyclonic and anticyclonic
vortices, the system can go critical somehow. And this occurs with a
large magnitude earthquake.

The same is true with flaccid set-ups. They produce tornadoes.

With an High over Greenland and another to the south east and a series
of Low pressure vortices pushing through between, the critical point
is 970 millibars or so.

The day of the tornado it is back up to 980 or so. There is a 10 mb
difference in the charts from the day before.

I have just been looking at about three or four spells where Derechos
were reported.

The set up is reversed.

It seems that for derechos, the dominant set up is a Low to the north
west and another to the south east. And an High pushing through.

But to answer your question.
I was looking at the dates of severe earthquakes and turned up the
North Atlantic Chart. When I went back one day, I saw the isobars were
very close together for an High and a Low.

This pattern was produced over and over again.

I know there is a distinct frequency for angular distances between
Lows and earthquakes (they occur 80 degrees apart, as I have stated
frequently so you aught to be familiar) seeing the proximity of the
Highs -which also have this 80 degree relationship though I have not
bothered to look closely at those.

It crossed my mind that it might be easy to locate probable epicentres
by working out where these two coincidents coincide.

I bet it is 90 degrees. That would make a lot more sense than 80.

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On 2 Mar, 12:57, Weatherlawyer wrote:

I have just been looking at about three or four spells where Derechos
were reported.

The set up is reversed.

It seems that for derechos, the dominant set up is a Low to the north
west and another to the south east. And an High pushing through.


Speaking of which:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html
12:00 UTC 2 March. 2010.

This is not a forecast.

Or not as the case may be.
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On Jan 16, 3:35*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

The relationship with large magnitude earthquakes seems to be a
compression of millibars at sea level between the east coast of
greenland and a point just to the north of Lapland, somehwere between
Svarlbad and Western Norway.


Bear Island and Shannon Island off central East Greenland.

IIRC someone posted a link to sea temperatures some time in the middle
of December, this set up was followed by a high pressure system over
the NW Atlantic.


From UK.sci.weather. Paul someone or other. I forget.

Immediately after the large quake the system returns to a flaccid
"negative anomaly".






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