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looks like all our jan/feb cold turned up in dec.cant grumble after that
epic month.....

UK Outlook for Thursday 17 Feb 2011 to Thursday 3 Mar 2011:
The period should start relatively wet and unsettled in the north and
west, with drier conditions generally in the south and east. The mainly
southerly flow continues though throughout. Temperatures display a
north-south split with respect to average conditions, with northern
Scotland seeing above average temperatures, while the south of England
and Wales are nearer normal. After a wet start for some regions rainfall
amounts for the period look to settle down to become below average for
much of the country, with the east of England perhaps nearer normal.
Sunshine amounts should to be typical for February, though perhaps
slightly above average sunshine hours in the north of Scotland.

Updated: 1222 on Wed 2 Feb 2011
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Yawn!
"Western .Sky" wrote in message
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looks like all our jan/feb cold turned up in dec.cant grumble after that
epic month.....

UK Outlook for Thursday 17 Feb 2011 to Thursday 3 Mar 2011:
The period should start relatively wet and unsettled in the north and
west, with drier conditions generally in the south and east. The mainly
southerly flow continues though throughout. Temperatures display a
north-south split with respect to average conditions, with northern
Scotland seeing above average temperatures, while the south of England and
Wales are nearer normal. After a wet start for some regions rainfall
amounts for the period look to settle down to become below average for
much of the country, with the east of England perhaps nearer normal.
Sunshine amounts should to be typical for February, though perhaps
slightly above average sunshine hours in the north of Scotland.

Updated: 1222 on Wed 2 Feb 2011


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There comes a point when enough is enough, and now enough is enough, your
posts are becoming smegmatonic!


"Western .Sky" wrote in message
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looks like all our jan/feb cold turned up in dec.cant grumble after that
epic month.....

UK Outlook for Thursday 17 Feb 2011 to Thursday 3 Mar 2011:
The period should start relatively wet and unsettled in the north and
west, with drier conditions generally in the south and east. The mainly
southerly flow continues though throughout. Temperatures display a
north-south split with respect to average conditions, with northern
Scotland seeing above average temperatures, while the south of England and
Wales are nearer normal. After a wet start for some regions rainfall
amounts for the period look to settle down to become below average for
much of the country, with the east of England perhaps nearer normal.
Sunshine amounts should to be typical for February, though perhaps
slightly above average sunshine hours in the north of Scotland.

Updated: 1222 on Wed 2 Feb 2011


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ahh new toys please!

been reading a dictionary all night have we?




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How funny, I made the word up for you, but since you brought the dictionary
up, the only entry I could find of it was in the urban dictionary. Perhaps
Snoop Dog has heard of Western Sky before? Or maybe Western Sky Smegmatonic
is about to release the single "It's never bitter, never mind but my hero is
Gary Glitter"?



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ahh new toys please!

been reading a dictionary all night have we?




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only you would mention peados'

On 02/02/2011 10:15 PM, Johndoe wrote:
How funny, I made the word up for you, but since you brought the dictionary
up, the only entry I could find of it was in the urban dictionary. Perhaps
Snoop Dog has heard of Western Sky before? Or maybe Western Sky Smegmatonic
is about to release the single "It's never bitter, never mind but my hero is
Gary Glitter"?




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looks like all our jan/feb cold turned up in dec.cant grumble after that
epic month.....


Winter over then??
I think most of us expected it!
Quite amazing really, one historically cold month, one boringly average
month and one fairly mild month (to come).
So December was Winter 2011
Ah well, April will soon be here, longer days and hopefully warmer & much
brighter days.

Graham

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On 02/02/11 22:10, Graham wrote:


looks like all our jan/feb cold turned up in dec.cant grumble after
that epic month.....


Winter over then??
I think most of us expected it!
Quite amazing really, one historically cold month, one boringly average
month and one fairly mild month (to come).
So December was Winter 2011
Ah well, April will soon be here, longer days and hopefully warmer &
much brighter days.

Graham


Forecast was for 13C in London this weekend, sign of spring? :-)
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On Feb 2, 11:41*pm, Adam Lea wrote:
On 02/02/11 22:10, Graham wrote:



looks like all our jan/feb cold turned up in dec.cant grumble after
that epic month.....


Winter over then??
I think most of us expected it!
Quite amazing really, one historically cold month, one boringly average
month and one fairly mild month (to come).
So December was Winter 2011
Ah well, April will soon be here, longer days and hopefully warmer &
much brighter days.


Graham


Forecast was for 13C in London this weekend, sign of spring? :-)


It's not far away, but this just shows how difficult it is for even
the MetO to look 10 days in advance. The end of Feb could be
interesting WRT colder weather.

Note the word "could" *))
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The end of Feb could be
interesting WRT colder weather.

Note the word "could" *))


So the derided "hopecasters" of recent threads might end up being
correct?! At least for that part of their ruminations.

As ever we'll have to wait and see but what if this cold should happen
to pan out? As long as this block develops, then if it is in the
"right" place then it will to some degree or other. Longevity and
severity are other questions, and if they can be criticized it may be
for being overly bullish beyond outlining a return to blocking late
winter. I have my own thoughts on that.

It is of course possible they might just have got lucky, but then so
would have I (and a few others I expect), but we'd have "got lucky"
through strangely similar thought processes. At that range it's a
question of identifying possible trends and talking in terms of
probabilities. It's an aspect of forecasting that is of growing
importance commercially (so, actually, I'm surprised in a way that the
company in question publicly issues their thoughts).

Obviously I have got no reason to support this competitor but there is
probably a reason why they (and we and others) have customers in the
energy markets for seasonal and sub-seasonal estimations. Traders are
not stupid or gullible people, not by a long chalk. On the other hand
there are "long range forecasters" who indeed are nothing more than
hopecasters or guessers. It's important to distinguish.


Stephen.


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