On Nov 17, 10:49*am, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Dawlish wrote:
On Nov 16, 4:01 pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Dawlish wrote:
On Nov 16, 3:07 pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Early fog cleared by 10.00 am to give sunny spells till 2pm when mist
and low cloud returned. Maximum temperature as of 3pm was 7.5C which is
the lowest maximum here since March 18th.
Dave,
S.Essex
Brrrr. 13C (and wet) here Dave. Nothing like as cold. Is it possible
your max temp today has not yet been reached, if this lot gets to you
before midnight? Just a thought.
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I did think that as well Paul - not my true max I know but I thought it
would give a good indication of the type of day, certainly coldest
during daylight hours since then.
Dave

Yes, horrid!

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Crept up to 8.1C by midnight. Surprisingly bright and cheery this
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Thought it might! A lovely day down here today.

On 17/11/2011 08:54, Graham P Davis wrote:

Nick, could you please alter your sig to replace the long line? The
divider should be "-- ". This would then be recognised by newsreaders
and removed from any replies. Come to think of it, why not create it as
a sig and let TB8 do it all for you?


Is this better?

Already was a sig file in TB8.

Cheers

--
Nick G
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

On Nov 17, 8:10*am, Nick wrote:
On Nov 16, 7:29*pm, John Hall wrote:





In article ,
*Dave Cornwell writes:

The fact that 7.5C is the lowest max temp between mid March and
mid November (i.e I would think the months of *late March, April,
Oct and early November often produce lower) could indicate that
2011 will end up as a pretty mild year, bearing in mind that the
South at least had a fairly mild Jan and Feb and Autumn was
above average as well.

And of course April was exceptionally warm. As against that, IIRC the
summer months were cooler than average, but even so unless we have
another severe December I think you will be right.
--
John Hall
* * * * * * *"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
* * * * * * * by those who have not got it."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * George Bernard Shaw

It's rather annoying that in such a mild year, the three months that
were cool were the three summer months!

Incidentally I wonder if this year would come close to setting the
records for most equable April-October period? In a typical southern
England location I'd guess that all of those months had mean maxima in
the approximate range 17-20C, compared to 14-23 in a typical year.

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Some info from the MetO about the CET. It is annoying that the 3
coolest months were the summer months, I agree. I feel cheated!
However, they weren't too bad in South Devon. It would be hard for
even a very harsh December to reduce the CET below average for the
year, as the anomaly was 1.04C at the end of October and it will
almost certainly rise towards the end of November. To reduce the CET
below average would require December to be the coldest ever in the UK
by a long way.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/h...info_mean.html

Philip has the November CET in record territory:

http://www.climate-uk.com/graphs/201111.htm

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:24:55 +0000
Nick Gardner wrote:

On 17/11/2011 08:54, Graham P Davis wrote:

Nick, could you please alter your sig to replace the long line? The
divider should be "-- ". This would then be recognised by
newsreaders and removed from any replies. Come to think of it, why
not create it as a sig and let TB8 do it all for you?


Is this better?

Already was a sig file in TB8.

Cheers


That's beautiful! Thanks a lot.

--
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: change boy to man
Teach evolution, not creationism: http://evolutionnotcreationism.org.uk/

In message
,
Dawlish writes
On Nov 17, 8:10*am, Nick wrote:
On Nov 16, 7:29*pm, John Hall wrote:





In article ,
*Dave Cornwell writes:

The fact that 7.5C is the lowest max temp between mid March and
mid November (i.e I would think the months of *late March, April,
Oct and early November often produce lower) could indicate that
2011 will end up as a pretty mild year, bearing in mind that the
South at least had a fairly mild Jan and Feb and Autumn was
above average as well.

And of course April was exceptionally warm. As against that, IIRC the
summer months were cooler than average, but even so unless we have
another severe December I think you will be right.
--
John Hall
* * * * * * *"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
* * * * * * * by those who have not got it."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * George Bernard Shaw

It's rather annoying that in such a mild year, the three months that
were cool were the three summer months!

Incidentally I wonder if this year would come close to setting the
records for most equable April-October period? In a typical southern
England location I'd guess that all of those months had mean maxima in
the approximate range 17-20C, compared to 14-23 in a typical year.

Nick- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Some info from the MetO about the CET. It is annoying that the 3
coolest months were the summer months, I agree. I feel cheated!
However, they weren't too bad in South Devon. It would be hard for
even a very harsh December to reduce the CET below average for the
year, as the anomaly was 1.04C at the end of October and it will
almost certainly rise towards the end of November. To reduce the CET
below average would require December to be the coldest ever in the UK
by a long way.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/h...info_mean.html

Philip has the November CET in record territory:

http://www.climate-uk.com/graphs/201111.htm

It's a bit early to be counting that clutch of chickens.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

On Nov 17, 8:36*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:
In message
,
Dawlish writes





On Nov 17, 8:10*am, Nick wrote:
On Nov 16, 7:29*pm, John Hall wrote:

In article ,
*Dave Cornwell writes:

The fact that 7.5C is the lowest max temp between mid March and
mid November (i.e I would think the months of *late March, April,
Oct and early November often produce lower) could indicate that
2011 will end up as a pretty mild year, bearing in mind that the
South at least had a fairly mild Jan and Feb and Autumn was
above average as well.

And of course April was exceptionally warm. As against that, IIRC the
summer months were cooler than average, but even so unless we have
another severe December I think you will be right.
--
John Hall
* * * * * * *"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
* * * * * * * by those who have not got it."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * George Bernard Shaw

It's rather annoying that in such a mild year, the three months that
were cool were the three summer months!

Incidentally I wonder if this year would come close to setting the
records for most equable April-October period? In a typical southern
England location I'd guess that all of those months had mean maxima in
the approximate range 17-20C, compared to 14-23 in a typical year.

Nick- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Some info from the MetO about the CET. It is annoying that the 3
coolest months were the summer months, I agree. I feel cheated!
However, they weren't too bad in South Devon. It would be hard for
even a very harsh December to reduce the CET below average for the
year, as the anomaly was 1.04C at the end of October and it will
almost certainly rise towards the end of November. To reduce the CET
below average would require December to be the coldest ever in the UK
by a long way.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/h...info_mean.html

Philip has the November CET in record territory:

http://www.climate-uk.com/graphs/201111.htm

It's a bit early to be counting that clutch of chickens.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

??

that looks like 2 backsides doing a poo

are you a-level in ascii art?

On 17/11/2011 9:27 PM, Dawlish wrote:

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On 17/11/11 08:10, Nick wrote:
On Nov 16, 7:29 pm, John wrote:
In ,
Dave writes:

The fact that 7.5C is the lowest max temp between mid March and
mid November (i.e I would think the months of late March, April,
Oct and early November often produce lower) could indicate that
2011 will end up as a pretty mild year, bearing in mind that the
South at least had a fairly mild Jan and Feb and Autumn was
above average as well.

And of course April was exceptionally warm. As against that, IIRC the
summer months were cooler than average, but even so unless we have
another severe December I think you will be right.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

It's rather annoying that in such a mild year, the three months that
were cool were the three summer months!

To be honest I feel that if we are going to have three cool months then
I would rather they be in summer. If autumn, winter and spring are mild
then it helps to keep the heating bills down, which given the
cash-squeezed state of people in the current economic climate can only
be a good thing. Cool temperatures in summer are still warm enough to
enjoy outdoor activities yet still be able to a) sleep at night and b)
be able to enjoy the sunshine without that horrible oppressive
energy-sapping heat and humidity.

I wonder if the current synoptic setup so far this month had occurred
four months earlier we could have been looking at another July 2006.


Incidentally I wonder if this year would come close to setting the
records for most equable April-October period? In a typical southern
England location I'd guess that all of those months had mean maxima in
the approximate range 17-20C, compared to 14-23 in a typical year.

Nick

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message
,
Dawlish writes


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/h...info_mean.html

Philip has the November CET in record territory:

http://www.climate-uk.com/graphs/201111.htm

It's a bit early to be counting that clutch of chickens.

He's not.
The graph shows what the CET is up to now, there is
no forecast/projection as to what it will actually be for
November as a whole.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

In message , Col
writes

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message
,
Dawlish writes


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/h...info_mean.html

Philip has the November CET in record territory:

http://www.climate-uk.com/graphs/201111.htm

It's a bit early to be counting that clutch of chickens.

He's not.
The graph shows what the CET is up to now, there is
no forecast/projection as to what it will actually be for
November as a whole.

I interpreted the horizontal lines of the graph as showing the CETs for
November as a whole (as is clearly the case for the rainfall and
sunshire graphs). If so, the graph shows the highest CET for November as
a whole. Comparison with the actual temperatures for the first half of
this November doesn't show the November CET in record territory - for
that you'd need the historical CETs for the first half of November.
Comparing the CET for the first half of November with the CET for the
whole of November is comparing apples with oranges.

Now that we've had another few days of seasonally warm weather, and a
projection of it continuing for the next few days, it's more reasonable
to start speculating about a record.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley