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There's an article on the Met O website comparing this December to last.
Towards the end it says:
"However, the challenge of forecasting our variable weather is something
the Met Office rises to every day and explains why we are regularly
ranked in the top two national weather services in the world"

Who is the other one?
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On Dec 21, 10:24*pm, Phil Layton wrote:
There's an article on the Met O website comparing this December to last.
Towards the end it says:
"However, the challenge of forecasting our variable weather is something
the Met Office rises to every day and explains why we are regularly
ranked in the top two national weather services in the world"

Who is the other one?


The people who supply most of the weather satellites, dopey.
Look what's available he

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home2.cgi


And check it against what a non fee paying serf can find on the MetO
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http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home2.cgi

PS.

If the WetterZentrale site was a better facility for non German
speakers, the MetO would only be in the top 3.

Or was the original article about weather models not weather sites?

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On Dec 21, 10:24*pm, Phil Layton wrote:
There's an article on the Met O website comparing this December to last.
Towards the end it says:
"However, the challenge of forecasting our variable weather is something
the Met Office rises to every day and explains why we are regularly
ranked in the top two national weather services in the world"

Who is the other one?
--
Phil
Guildford


NOAA? It's also a statement that smacks of the hubris that permeates
the MetO and it's just the kind of PR that further alienates a public
that see the forecast, experience the weather mistakes as they affect
them, personally and don't see the explanations of why it went wrong.

Excellent forecasters, working right at the edge of what is possible;
bloody awful PR.
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"Dawlish" wrote in message
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On Dec 21, 10:24 pm, Phil Layton wrote:
There's an article on the Met O website comparing this December to last.
Towards the end it says:
"However, the challenge of forecasting our variable weather is something
the Met Office rises to every day and explains why we are regularly
ranked in the top two national weather services in the world"

Who is the other one?
--
Phil
Guildford


NOAA? It's also a statement that smacks of the hubris that permeates
the MetO and it's just the kind of PR that further alienates a public
that see the forecast, experience the weather mistakes as they affect
them, personally and don't see the explanations of why it went wrong.

Excellent forecasters, working right at the edge of what is possible;
bloody awful PR.

=====================

Have you signed up for the open day in Jan? Could be a good opportunity to
feed back what you feel is good and bad!

I'm looking forward to the tour, got lots of questions to ask them
myself....



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On Dec 22, 7:20*am, " cupra" wrote:
"Dawlish" *wrote in message

...

On Dec 21, 10:24 pm, Phil Layton wrote:

There's an article on the Met O website comparing this December to last..
Towards the end it says:
"However, the challenge of forecasting our variable weather is something
the Met Office rises to every day and explains why we are regularly
ranked in the top two national weather services in the world"


Who is the other one?
--
Phil
Guildford


NOAA? It's also a statement that smacks of the hubris that permeates
the MetO and it's just the kind of PR that further alienates a public
that see the forecast, experience the weather mistakes as they affect
them, personally and don't see the explanations of why it went wrong.

Excellent forecasters, working right at the edge of what is possible;
bloody awful PR.

=====================

Have you signed up for the open day in Jan? Could be a good opportunity to
feed back what you feel is good and bad!

I'm looking forward to the tour, got lots of questions to ask them
myself....


I have fed back views, in a very constructive way. One time was
concerning the severe weather warnings area of the website. I waited a
long time Over a month IIRC, for a "forecaster" to get back in touch
with me and when one eventually did (after being reminded) he said
thank you for the comments and directed me to the comments area of the
MetO site. *))

Have you details of the open day please; it does sound interesting, as
you say.
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"Phil Layton" wrote in message
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Who is the other one?


Haytor Weather Station :-)

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On 22/12/2011 09:05, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Phil Layton" wrote in message
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Who is the other one?


Haytor Weather Station :-)

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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For perhaps the first time I have to disagree with you, Will. ;-)

It is the Gwynfe Weather Station.

http://www.hneil.plus.com/weather.html

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Howard Neil
(western end of the Brecon Beacons National Park, at 235 metres asl)
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In article ,
Phil Layton writes:
There's an article on the Met O website comparing this December
to last. Towards the end it says:
"However, the challenge of forecasting our variable weather is
something the Met Office rises to every day and explains why we
are regularly ranked in the top two national weather services in
the world"

Who is the other one?


And ranked by whom? Who is qualified to rank all the national weather
services in the world? Just collecting all the data on their performance
would be a massive task, never mind analysing it. In fact even deriving
a single objective numerical measure of how well our own Met Office
performs would be challenging enough.

I wonder if this derived from an analysis of how well the various global
models performed putting the Met Office's model in second place behind
the ECMWF, and then the Met Office's press office misunderstanding
and/or getting a bit carried away?
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw
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On Dec 22, 10:09*am, John Hall wrote:

I wonder if this derived from an analysis of how well the various global
models performed putting the Met Office's model in second place behind
the ECMWF, and then the Met Office's press office misunderstanding
and/or getting a bit carried away?


I would have thought that the EC is the "best" if you're looking at
pure model performance - and they also don't seemingly employ any
disconnected PR team to cock things up for them...

Richard


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