There's no end to it. This zonal spell of weather began around the
start of the last week in November and if this forecast proves
correct, the spell will be close to 6 weeks in length. The forecasts
of a cold December, that we had to endure from some quarters in early
November are now a distant, failed, memory. 2 months of the winter
left. It'll get cold and snow widely at some stage (probably) but
there's nothing, for most, on the 10-day horizon.

**At T240, on January 2nd 2012. the UK will still be under the
influence of zonal, Atlantic weather. Pressure will be higher to the
South of the UK than to the north. Temperatures will vary with the
position of the depressions which will continue to pass to the north
of Scotland - colder, with hill snow in their lee; mild and perhaps
very mild, as depressions approach. rainfall amounts will be above
average over the next 10 days, especially in the N and NW of Scotland,
where there will be occasional spells of gales. Frosts will be
confined to transient ridges and lowland snow will be absent, for
most**.

No blocking; very little chance of sledge weather for anyone living
below 250m. Sorry coldies, but you can do nothing about those
consistent charts.

On Dec 23, 7:48*pm, Dawlish wrote:
There's no end to it. This zonal spell of weather began around the
start of the last week in November and if this forecast proves
correct, the spell will be close to 6 weeks in length. The forecasts
of a cold December, that we had to endure from some quarters in early
November are now a distant, failed, memory. 2 months of the winter
left. It'll get cold and snow widely at some stage (probably) but
there's nothing, for most, on the 10-day horizon.

**At T240, on January 2nd 2012. the UK will still be under the
influence of zonal, Atlantic weather. Pressure will be higher to the
South of the UK than to the north. Temperatures will vary with the
position of the depressions which will continue to pass to the north
of Scotland - colder, with hill snow in their lee; mild and perhaps
very mild, as depressions approach. rainfall amounts will be above
average over the next 10 days, especially in the N and NW of Scotland,
where there will be occasional spells of gales. Frosts will be
confined to transient ridges and lowland snow will be absent, for
most**.

No blocking; very little chance of sledge weather for anyone living
below 250m. Sorry coldies, but you can do nothing about those
consistent charts.

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Can't argue with what you write Paul, but why in such a way?

Why use the term "endure" and insist on using "coldies" as an implied
insult?

Can't you just play nice?

Season's Greetings,

Steve R. Swansea

wrote:


Can't argue with what you write Paul, but why in such a way?

Why use the term "endure" and insist on using "coldies" as an implied
insult?

Can't you just play nice?

Unforttunately Dawlish can't seem to function without making some
snide comment. Often it's quite subtle, but the undertones always
seem to be there.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

On Dec 23, 8:11*pm, "Col" wrote:
wrote:

Can't argue with what you write Paul, but why in such a way?

Why use the term "endure" and insist on using "coldies" as an implied
insult?

Can't you just play nice?

Unforttunately Dawlish can't seem to function without making some
snide comment. Often it's quite subtle, but the undertones always
seem to be there.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Touche Col. I think the "bickering" must have got to you.

PS Steve. The words are carefully chosen *)) Judge the forecast at
outcome though; I'd give it a 20% chance of being wrong. Merry
Christmas. *))

Dawlish wrote:
There's no end to it. This zonal spell of weather began around the
start of the last week in November and if this forecast proves
correct, the spell will be close to 6 weeks in length. The forecasts
of a cold December, that we had to endure from some quarters in early
November are now a distant, failed, memory. 2 months of the winter
left. It'll get cold and snow widely at some stage (probably) but
there's nothing, for most, on the 10-day horizon.

**At T240, on January 2nd 2012. the UK will still be under the
influence of zonal, Atlantic weather. Pressure will be higher to the
South of the UK than to the north. Temperatures will vary with the
position of the depressions which will continue to pass to the north
of Scotland - colder, with hill snow in their lee; mild and perhaps
very mild, as depressions approach. rainfall amounts will be above
average over the next 10 days, especially in the N and NW of Scotland,
where there will be occasional spells of gales. Frosts will be
confined to transient ridges and lowland snow will be absent, for
most**.

No blocking; very little chance of sledge weather for anyone living
below 250m. Sorry coldies, but you can do nothing about those
consistent charts.

----------------------------------------
You may be right but surely this does not meet your normally stipulated
model consistency criteria. There is absolutely no agreement from
January 2nd onwards in the ensembles so your normal advice would be to
ignore it.
Dave

no u never stop being one
*)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *))
*)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *)) *))


On 23/12/2011 7:48 PM, Dawlish wrote:
There's no end to it.

thats a understatement

tread carefully u might be reported mr google or even ofsted

On 23/12/2011 8:11 PM, Col wrote:

Unforttunately Dawlish can't seem to function

On 23/12/2011 7:48 PM, Dawlish wrote:


No blocking;

On Dec 23, 11:12*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Dawlish wrote:
There's no end to it. This zonal spell of weather began around the
start of the last week in November and if this forecast proves
correct, the spell will be close to 6 weeks in length. The forecasts
of a cold December, that we had to endure from some quarters in early
November are now a distant, failed, memory. 2 months of the winter
left. It'll get cold and snow widely at some stage (probably) but
there's nothing, for most, on the 10-day horizon.

**At T240, on January 2nd 2012. the UK will still be under the
influence of zonal, Atlantic weather. Pressure will be higher to the
South of the UK than to the north. Temperatures will vary with the
position of the depressions which will continue to pass to the north
of Scotland - colder, with hill snow in their lee; mild and perhaps
very mild, as depressions approach. rainfall amounts will be above
average over the next 10 days, especially in the N and NW of Scotland,
where there will be occasional spells of gales. Frosts will be
confined to transient ridges and lowland snow will be absent, for
most**.

No blocking; very little chance of sledge weather for anyone living
below 250m. Sorry coldies, but you can do nothing about those
consistent charts.

----------------------------------------
You may be right but surely this does not meet your normally stipulated
model consistency criteria. There is absolutely no agreement from
January 2nd onwards in the ensembles so your normal advice would be to
ignore it.
Dave- Hide quoted text -

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It's about consistency and agreement between the 2 main models, for me
Dave and both have been rock solid out to T+240. They still are this
morning. I use the ensembles only as a check at 10 days, because the
spaghetti that you find there is not useful, on its own, for
forecasting.

On 24/12/2011 9:17 AM, Dawlish wrote:
.. I use the ensembles only