I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.

Then there's this northerly scenario that the models keep thowing into
the ring.

Of course we could just stay on the edge of the action, but the SE in
the cold for sometime to come.

Wonder if Will has any new thoughts?

Temperature dropping like a stone, which is unusual given the NE wind
with shallow cumulus coming off the North Sea.

17:50
Temp -2.9°C
DP -8.4°C
Wind NNE (Backed) 2mph

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

Keith (Southend)G wrote:
I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.


XCWeather http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/Dover has been underestimating
temps for days. GFS based i believe. Langdon Bay reporting -4C at the mo but
XC predicting -1C for Dover at 1800.

L

On Feb 7, 4:47*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.

Then there's this northerly scenario that the models keep thowing into
the ring.

Of course we could just stay on the edge of the action, but the SE in
the cold for sometime to come.

Wonder if Will has any new thoughts?

Temperature dropping like a stone, which is unusual given the NE wind
with shallow cumulus coming off the North Sea.

17:50
Temp -2.9°C
DP -8.4°C
Wind NNE (Backed) 2mph

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"



Hello Keith

Yes I found it remarkable coming out of a centrally heated building
into sunshine to find just how cold it was, when visually through my
office window it all looked so bright and balmy. I looked at our car
park thermometer and couldn't believe it was show 0 C. As I drive home
my car therm showed zero and on getting home the garden thermometer
was -2c. We only have some patches of snow hanging around here in SE
London and it seems such a waste of cold frigid air with no snow to
defend. I know there was a chance of snow showers tonight forecast
yesterday and some heavy ones if they came off would settle with ease.

But your main point being just how frigid the continental air that's
on our doorstep is; I can only concur. It's bleedin' freezing

On Feb 7, 4:47*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.

Then there's this northerly scenario that the models keep thowing into
the ring.

Of course we could just stay on the edge of the action, but the SE in
the cold for sometime to come.

Wonder if Will has any new thoughts?

Temperature dropping like a stone, which is unusual given the NE wind
with shallow cumulus coming off the North Sea.

17:50
Temp -2.9°C
DP -8.4°C
Wind NNE (Backed) 2mph

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

For a few days now the temperature range E - W along the south coast
has been close to 10C, irrespective of the time of day. E.g. at 13:15
it was 8.1C in Penzance (today's max was 8.7) but only around -2C in
east Kent. Currently the range is roughly -4 to +6C.

It looks like turning somewhat colder here for 36 hours or so, but
still nothing like the temperatures further east. It felt quite
pleasant today http://www.sennen-cove.com/today2.htm

Graham
Penzance

"Lawrence13" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 4:47 pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.

Then there's this northerly scenario that the models keep thowing into
the ring.

Of course we could just stay on the edge of the action, but the SE in
the cold for sometime to come.

Wonder if Will has any new thoughts?


See my "quick assessment" thread.

Temperature dropping like a stone, which is unusual given the NE wind
with shallow cumulus coming off the North Sea.

17:50
Temp -2.9°C
DP -8.4°C
Wind NNE (Backed) 2mph

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"



But your main point being just how frigid the continental air that's
on our doorstep is; I can only concur. It's bleedin' freezing
========================

Yes Lawrence. Here at altitude that easterly is going to be really bitter.
Not quite here yet and already temperature is down to +1.1C at 1730 on the
edge of it. Looking forward to it to be honest, but then we get the messy
breakdown at the weekend which will be fun watching too. Life's too good
sometimes :-)

Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
--

Eskimo Will wrote:

"Lawrence13" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 4:47 pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.

Then there's this northerly scenario that the models keep thowing into
the ring.

Of course we could just stay on the edge of the action, but the SE in
the cold for sometime to come.

Wonder if Will has any new thoughts?


See my "quick assessment" thread.

Temperature dropping like a stone, which is unusual given the NE wind
with shallow cumulus coming off the North Sea.

17:50
Temp -2.9°C
DP -8.4°C
Wind NNE (Backed) 2mph

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"



But your main point being just how frigid the continental air that's
on our doorstep is; I can only concur. It's bleedin' freezing
========================

Yes Lawrence. Here at altitude that easterly is going to be really
bitter. Not quite here yet and already temperature is down to +1.1C at
1730 on the edge of it. Looking forward to it to be honest, but then we
get the messy breakdown at the weekend which will be fun watching too.
Life's too good sometimes :-)

Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
--


---------------------------
It was like being on Dartmoor today Will, out in the Essex Marshes
wilderness. You'd have loved it. I'll try and get some pics up.
Dave

indeed, that does not tie in at all with tonights runs.
BUT they have more data, and that came from the cheif forecaster, and i
dont really seem them backtracking?
i think?

On 07/02/2012 4:47 PM, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.

It is amazingly cold. When I went kayaking on the Tryweryn river in
North Wales just before Christmas there was ice and snow around, and
the gravel paths were extremely slippy due to the ice, yet I didn't
feel anything like as cold as I did last Saturday on the river Dee. In
fact although the temps were pretty similar on the two occassions, for
some reason last Saturday felt so cold that we came off the river early.

Whether it was the wind I don't know. I do know that I had three layers
of thermals and a drysuit on though and it still wasn't enough!

Simon

On 2012-02-07 17:17:03 +0000, Graham Easterling said:

On Feb 7, 4:47*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.

Then there's this northerly scenario that the models keep thowing into
the ring.

Of course we could just stay on the edge of the action, but the SE in
the cold for sometime to come.

Wonder if Will has any new thoughts?

Temperature dropping like a stone, which is unusual given the NE wind
with shallow cumulus coming off the North Sea.

17:50
Temp -2.9°C
DP -8.4°C
Wind NNE (Backed) 2mph

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

For a few days now the temperature range E - W along the south coast
has been close to 10C, irrespective of the time of day. E.g. at 13:15
it was 8.1C in Penzance (today's max was 8.7) but only around -2C in
east Kent. Currently the range is roughly -4 to +6C.

It looks like turning somewhat colder here for 36 hours or so, but
still nothing like the temperatures further east. It felt quite
pleasant today http://www.sennen-cove.com/today2.htm

Graham
Penzance


--
http://www.5ep.co.uk

On Feb 7, 5:17*pm, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Feb 7, 4:47*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:





I can't remember the near continent being quite so cold as it
currently is and I wonder whether the models are allowing for this.
Zonality seems to be struggling to establish itself, and I doubt the
UKMO medium range forcast will be correct.

Then there's this northerly scenario that the models keep thowing into
the ring.

Of course we could just stay on the edge of the action, but the SE in
the cold for sometime to come.

Wonder if Will has any new thoughts?

Temperature dropping like a stone, which is unusual given the NE wind
with shallow cumulus coming off the North Sea.

17:50
Temp -2.9°C
DP -8.4°C
Wind NNE (Backed) 2mph

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

For a few days now the temperature range E - W along the south coast
has been close to 10C, irrespective of the time of day. E.g. at 13:15
it was 8.1C in Penzance (today's max was 8.7) but only around -2C in
east Kent. Currently the range is roughly -4 to +6C.

It looks like turning somewhat colder here for 36 hours or so, but
still nothing like the temperatures further east. It felt quite
pleasant todayhttp://www.sennen-cove.com/today2.htm

Graham
Penzance



Only +0.7 in Teignmouth presently. Almost an ice day on the south
coast of Devon and you don't get many of those to the winter's pound!