On Jun 9, 9:09*am, "Col" wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message

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Dartmoor Will wrote:

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Hull :-O

That's not the north, north midlands maybe!
Mind you I come from south Manchester and that's barely north either, but
it is :-)

Will
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..... and Hull is a good way North of Manchester actually Will.;-) It
always surprises me how far north places on that side are. It's something
to do with East Anglia sticking out so much and being asociated with the
S.E I think.

And because of the alignnent of the so-called 'east' coast, just
how far west some places are that are considered to be in the
east. Edinburgh is on the same longitude as Liverpool.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

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So is Oujda, more or less, but it's still in eastern Morocco.

Stephen.

On Jun 9, 12:06*am, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:12:48 +0100, Dartmoor Will wrote:
Hull :-O

That's not the north, north midlands maybe!

Aye.

Mind you I come from south Manchester and that's barely north either,
but it is :-)

I don't go south of Manchester if I can help it, it's well over 100
miles and needs 2 1/2 hrs driving. The map has "Here be Dragons" on
it once you get past Stoke (160 miles, 3hrs+).

Trouble is it gets mildy windy and rains a bit and the "southern
poofters" go into panic the world is about to end mode. Meaning that
they might get slighly wet when outside for the 30 seconds it takes
to get from the front door to the car.

When it gets windy up here, you have to be very careful to a) not get
knocked off balance b) if opening a car door hang onto it very firmly
or the wind will have damn good try at folding it right back against
the side of the car or at the very least half drag you out. As for
the rain, that hurts so much you really don't want to face it.

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.

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Are we still doing this? We did make a bit of unnecessary fuss in the
south about that breeze in '87, I suppose.

The geographical consensus seems to be that most of Wales is in 'the
south', so I guess those poor souls being airlifted from the floods
today are a bunch of poofters, too.

Shall I join in and start jeering about whippets and flat caps and
stuff? Mind you, I can subvert that stereotype because I have both. I
don't keep coal in the bath, though.

Could we move on from this nonsense? Or are we to 'lighten up'?

Stephen.
Rochester, Kent.
In the South.

"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Jun 9, 9:09 am, "Col" wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message

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Dartmoor Will wrote:

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Hull :-O

That's not the north, north midlands maybe!
Mind you I come from south Manchester and that's barely north either,
but
it is :-)

Will
--
..... and Hull is a good way North of Manchester actually Will.;-) It
always surprises me how far north places on that side are. It's
something
to do with East Anglia sticking out so much and being asociated with the
S.E I think.

And because of the alignnent of the so-called 'east' coast, just
how far west some places are that are considered to be in the
east. Edinburgh is on the same longitude as Liverpool.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

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So is Oujda, more or less, but it's still in eastern Morocco.

Stephen.

I was told as a lad that if you travel due north from Margate the first
landfall would be Siberia,see you can fool 'some of the people some of the
time ......'

RonB

"Anne Burgess" wrote in message
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I consider 'The North' to start as you leave Staffordshire and
cross into Cheshire.
Col

Acha, awa' wi ye! It's all relative.

As far as I'm concerned 'The South' starts as you leave
Inverness-shire and cross into Perthshire on the A9 at
Drumochter. The North **of England** starts when you cross the
Tweed, or Carter Bar, or pass Gretna heading southwards.

:-)

It is indeed all relative, but the term 'The North' tends to
refer to northern England, rather than the UK as a whole.
Scotland isn't in 'The North' at all, Scotland is just Scotland

Still no sign of gales here. Almost flat calm, 8/8, 10ºC,
boring.

Heavy rain here, quite breezy.
Very unpleasant to be 'out and about' in.
One of those situations where the rain hangs on
in this area of NW England for some hours after
it has cleared from the rest of the country.
Just driving in from the Irish Sea.....
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

I consider 'The North' to start as you leave Staffordshire
and
cross into Cheshire.

When you drive north you regularly see road signs saying "The
North" but
you just keep going, they never tell you when you have
arrived, so
confusing!

"The North" is like chasing rainbows you never reach it.
Joe
That's because north is a direction, not a place. Without a
qualifier, like 'the North of England' or 'the North of
Scotland', 'The North' doesn't exist. Neither, of course, does
'The South', which also appears on road signs. 'The South of
England' or 'the South of France' or even 'the South of
Scotland' all exist.

I regard the North of England as comprising Cheshire,
Lancashire, Yorkshire, Northumberland, Cumberland, Westmorland
and County Durham. Being a survival of a bygone age, I don't do
these newfangled modern counties.

:-)

Anne

I consider 'The North' to start as you leave Staffordshire
and
cross into Cheshire.
Col

Acha, awa' wi ye! It's all relative.

As far as I'm concerned 'The South' starts as you leave
Inverness-shire and cross into Perthshire on the A9 at
Drumochter. The North **of England** starts when you cross
the
Tweed, or Carter Bar, or pass Gretna heading southwards.

:-)

It is indeed all relative, but the term 'The North' tends to
refer to northern England, rather than the UK as a whole.
Scotland isn't in 'The North' at all, Scotland is just
Scotland

Col

That only applies if you are in England ! This is, as already
mentioned **UK**.sci.weather :-)

Anne

"Anne Burgess" wrote in message
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I consider 'The North' to start as you leave Staffordshire and
cross into Cheshire.
Col

Acha, awa' wi ye! It's all relative.

As far as I'm concerned 'The South' starts as you leave
Inverness-shire and cross into Perthshire on the A9 at
Drumochter. The North **of England** starts when you cross the
Tweed, or Carter Bar, or pass Gretna heading southwards.

:-)

It is indeed all relative, but the term 'The North' tends to
refer to northern England, rather than the UK as a whole.
Scotland isn't in 'The North' at all, Scotland is just Scotland

Col

That only applies if you are in England ! This is, as already mentioned
**UK**.sci.weather :-)

It is indeed UK sci.weather but we are talking about the
term 'The North' which is generally accepted as being
in realtion to northern England, the road signs etc.
And yes, it's 'generally accepted' as meaning this
because far more people live in England, but rightly
or wrongly, that's the way it is.
If people in Scotland want to say 'The South' starts in
Perthshire, fair enough but that would only make sense
between two Scots who were clearly talking about
their own country.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

It is indeed all relative, but the term 'The North' tends to
refer to northern England, rather than the UK as a whole.
Scotland isn't in 'The North' at all, Scotland is just
Scotland

That only applies if you are in England ! This is, as already
mentioned **UK**.sci.weather :-)

It is indeed UK sci.weather but we are talking about the
term 'The North' which is generally accepted as being
in realtion to northern England, the road signs etc.
Col

It's so delightful to talk to people who not only know that 'UK'
and 'England' are not synonymous, but who actually understand
the difference VBG

Anne

"Anne Burgess" wrote in message
...
It is indeed all relative, but the term 'The North' tends to
refer to northern England, rather than the UK as a whole.
Scotland isn't in 'The North' at all, Scotland is just Scotland

That only applies if you are in England ! This is, as already mentioned
**UK**.sci.weather :-)

It is indeed UK sci.weather but we are talking about the
term 'The North' which is generally accepted as being
in realtion to northern England, the road signs etc.
Col

It's so delightful to talk to people who not only know that 'UK' and
'England' are not synonymous, but who actually understand the difference
VBG

You wouldn't like talking to Americans then, I'm sure some of
them think that Scotland is *in* England
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

On Jun 9, 11:43*am, "Anne Burgess"
wrote:
It is indeed all relative, but the term 'The North' tends to
refer to northern England, rather than the UK as a whole.
Scotland isn't in 'The North' at all, Scotland is just
Scotland
That only applies if you are in England ! This is, as already
mentioned **UK**.sci.weather :-)
It is indeed UK sci.weather but we are talking about the
term 'The North' which is generally accepted as being
in realtion to northern England, the road signs etc.
Col

It's so delightful to talk to people who not only know that 'UK'
and 'England' are not synonymous, but who actually understand
the difference VBG

Anne

In Yorkshire's glory days-"there's more acres in't Yorkshire than
words in't Bible!"- the entire county was most definitely up North.
Since its truncation into three pointless little bits this may no
longer be true. Any one remember that sham district "Humberside"?. It
was designed to unify the Humber estuary with the building of the
Humber Bridge. You might just as well have tried to unify the Lake
District with Dumfriesshire.
Although you could see S****horpe's blast furnaces from Hull, it was a
sixty mile trip via Goole to get to it, and it showed- different
accent, different SOH, and a rather self-satisfied approach to life.
The "S****horpe Question" was not just relevant to computers!
I'm delighted to say the Humber Bridge hasn't made the slightest
difference, probably because no-one can afford to use it, and the
Humber still marks the boundary between the North and the Midlands
The other boundary is Swarkestone Bridge, crossing the Trent six miles
S. of Derby. Look N. into the Peak District, look S. into the
Midlands. It's no coincidence that Prince Charlie's Highlanders got to
this point, looked across the fat flat arable Midlands, turned round
and went home.
As for Cheshire being in the North, it most definitely ain't! It's a
Midland country and always has been, although now it is full of
overpaid actors and footballers who regard themselves as gentry, one
could say it is spiritually in the South.