Looking Back Over The Winter
I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past-


All we ever hear is 'the science is settled, listen to climate scientist' and so on. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot at best and a denier at worst. So in this now embarrassing and infamous headlining story from the Independent what did the 'experts' the 'climate scientists' tell us?


David Viner
'According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".'


David Parker
'David Parker, at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in Berkshire, says ultimately, British children could have only virtual experience of snow. Via the internet, they might wonder at polar scenes - or eventually "feel" virtual cold.'

I know its clichéd but you really couldn't make it up.

Listen to the scientist and experts, yeah right.

On Friday, April 5, 2013 5:41:30 PM UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:
Looking Back Over The Winter I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past- All we ever hear is 'the science is settled, listen to climate scientist' and so on. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot at best and a denier at worst. So in this now embarrassing and infamous headlining story from the Independent what did the 'experts' the 'climate scientists' tell us? David Viner 'According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".' David Parker 'David Parker, at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in Berkshire, says ultimately, British children could have only virtual experience of snow. Via the internet, they might wonder at polar scenes - or eventually "feel" virtual cold.' I know its clichéd but you really couldn't make it up. Listen to the scientist and experts, yeah right.

When you mention Dr David Viner and David Parker the phrase that contains the words "ass" and "elbow" comes to mind!!!

On Friday, 5 April 2013 17:52:10 UTC+1, Big Bollox *******i wrote:
On Friday, April 5, 2013 5:41:30 PM UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:

Looking Back Over The Winter I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past- All we ever hear is 'the science is settled, listen to climate scientist' and so on. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot at best and a denier at worst. So in this now embarrassing and infamous headlining story from the Independent what did the 'experts' the 'climate scientists' tell us? David Viner 'According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".' David Parker 'David Parker, at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in Berkshire, says ultimately, British children could have only virtual experience of snow. Via the internet, they might wonder at polar scenes - or eventually "feel" virtual cold.' I know its clichéd but you really couldn't make it up. Listen to the scientist and experts, yeah right.



When you mention Dr David Viner and David Parker the phrase that contains the words "ass" and "elbow" comes to mind!!!

Yes the ass and elbow element is settled.

On Friday, 5 April 2013 17:41:30 UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:
Looking Back Over The Winter

I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past-

I remember that one well!

Richard

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
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On Friday, 5 April 2013 17:41:30 UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:
Looking Back Over The Winter

I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past-

I remember that one well!


Me too. Made a point on MetO internal newsgroups that I didn't believe a
word of it. Was shouted down as a heretic of course for not joining the
"faith", but I didn't give a toss about that.
Not everyone was like that though, some were more level-headed, good people
like Vicky Pope and now
Julia Slingo who know better than to make extreme bold assertions like that
with little evidence of the effect of GW on regional variation.

Will
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Richard Dixon wrote:
On Friday, 5 April 2013 17:41:30 UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:
Looking Back Over The Winter

I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past-

I remember that one well!

Richard
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Well it was true for the first ten years judging by the excitement there
used too be on here - remember those days Lawrence!

On Friday, 5 April 2013 18:18:53 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Richard Dixon wrote:

On Friday, 5 April 2013 17:41:30 UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:

Looking Back Over The Winter



I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent



http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past-



I remember that one well!



Richard

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Well it was true for the first ten years judging by the excitement there

used too be on here - remember those days Lawrence!

Blimey lamp post watch is passé nowadays.

"Lawrence13" wrote in message
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On Friday, 5 April 2013 18:18:53 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Richard Dixon wrote:
used too be on here - remember those days Lawrence!

Blimey lamp post watch is passé nowadays.

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LOL. I used to use the velux. Still do, the best detector there is IMHO for
blobs of sleet mixed in with rain. I don't record a sleet/snow falling day
though until I can see definite flakes descending. Switching on our security
light is also great fun when it is snowing as one can then see all the
flakes swirling around. But yes I remember the dire 90s winters in
Crowthorne Berkshire. Endless Bartlett highs and days of boring
stratocumulus with maxes. of 9-10C. There were a few exceptions of course
(1991 and 1996), but not many. Main excitement then was wind and rain.

Will
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Lawrence13 wrote:
On Friday, 5 April 2013 18:18:53 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Richard Dixon wrote:

On Friday, 5 April 2013 17:41:30 UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:
Looking Back Over The Winter
I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past-
I remember that one well!
Richard
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Well it was true for the first ten years judging by the excitement there

used too be on here - remember those days Lawrence!

Blimey lamp post watch is passé nowadays.
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No computer radar for you then Lawrence - you had to plot a time lapse
diagram from Neil Green in East Kent to Sydenham to work out when the
showers would arrive. You knew when they wouldn't because you would hear
his rattle land about 30 minutes before yours ;-)

On Friday, 5 April 2013 19:01:28 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence13 wrote:

On Friday, 5 April 2013 18:18:53 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Richard Dixon wrote:



On Friday, 5 April 2013 17:41:30 UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:

Looking Back Over The Winter

I though about this headline in March 2000 from the Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...g-of-the-past-

I remember that one well!

Richard

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Well it was true for the first ten years judging by the excitement there



used too be on here - remember those days Lawrence!



Blimey lamp post watch is passé nowadays.

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No computer radar for you then Lawrence - you had to plot a time lapse

diagram from Neil Green in East Kent to Sydenham to work out when the

showers would arrive. You knew when they wouldn't because you would hear

his rattle land about 30 minutes before yours ;-)

Not much annoys me Dave.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................but forecasts of snow that never arrived is just one thing on a very long list. Just beating that is a snow forecasts that never happened and the forecaster that made it embellished it with tales of woe and destruction yet never mentioned a bye your leave when nowt happened.

Otherwise not much annoys me .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ................................except