They seem to be playing this down, but with such a hot and humid air mass being over-ridden by cooler air off the Atlantic (cold front) tomorrow, there must be plenty of head scratching going on atm in the office!

Keith (Southend)

On 01/08/2013 21:41, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
They seem to be playing this down, but with such a hot and humid air mass being over-ridden by cooler air off the Atlantic (cold front) tomorrow, there must be plenty of head scratching going on atm in the office!

Keith (Southend)



That what I thought Keith. I can't see how thunderstorms can't happen
tomorrow.

Joe
Wolverhampton.

On Thursday, 1 August 2013 21:51:20 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote:

On 01/08/2013 21:41, Keith (Southend)G wrote: They seem to be playing this down, but with such a hot and humid air mass being over-ridden by cooler air off the Atlantic (cold front) tomorrow, there must be plenty of head scratching going on atm in the office! Keith (Southend)

That what I thought Keith. I can't see how thunderstorms can't happen tomorrow. Joe Wolverhampton.

Thunderstorms can *always* not happen. Despite what the soundings may tell you it always needs a trigger.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Thursday, 1 August 2013 21:51:20 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote:

On 01/08/2013 21:41, Keith (Southend)G wrote: They seem to be
playing this down, but with such a hot and humid air mass being
over-ridden by cooler air off the Atlantic (cold front) tomorrow,
there must be plenty of head scratching going on atm in the office!
Keith (Southend)

That what I thought Keith. I can't see how thunderstorms can't
happen tomorrow. Joe Wolverhampton.

Thunderstorms can *always* not happen. Despite what the soundings
may tell you it always needs a trigger.



Looks like they've been triggered. ;-)

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
'To do is to be' - Nietzsche
'To be is to do' - Kant
'Do be do be do' - Sinatra

On Friday, 2 August 2013 06:58:15 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Tudor Hughes wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 21:51:20 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote: On 01/08/2013 21:41, Keith (Southend)G wrote: They seem to be playing this down, but with such a hot and humid air mass being over-ridden by cooler air off the Atlantic (cold front) tomorrow, there must be plenty of head scratching going on atm in the office! Keith (Southend) That what I thought Keith. I can't see how thunderstorms can't happen tomorrow. Joe Wolverhampton. Thunderstorms can *always* not happen. Despite what the soundings may tell you it always needs a trigger. Looks like they've been triggered. ;-) -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. 'To do is to be' - Nietzsche 'To be is to do' - Kant 'Do be do be do' - Sinatra



Yes read Keiths and Joe's posts around midnight, checked with the wonderful UKLMO sofware for Bromley (yes got it back again) and on there was not one teenie weenie dicky bird about rain and storms. However I awoke at 7:30 in the said area of Bromley to thunder rumbling and rain a falling.

Never mind.

Well forecast Keith and Joe.

Lawrence13 wrote:
On Friday, 2 August 2013 06:58:15 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Tudor Hughes wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 21:51:20 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote: On 01/08/2013 21:41, Keith (Southend)G wrote: They seem to be playing this down, but with such a hot and humid air mass being over-ridden by cooler air off the Atlantic (cold front) tomorrow, there must be plenty of head scratching going on atm in the office! Keith (Southend) That what I thought Keith. I can't see how thunderstorms can't happen tomorrow. Joe Wolverhampton. Thunderstorms can *always* not happen. Despite what the soundings may tell you it always needs a trigger. Looks like they've been triggered. ;-) -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. 'To do is to be' - Nietzsche 'To be is to do' - Kant 'Do be do be do' - Sinatra



Yes read Keiths and Joe's posts around midnight, checked with the wonderful UKLMO sofware for Bromley (yes got it back again) and on there was not one teenie weenie dicky bird about rain and storms. However I awoke at 7:30 in the said area of Bromley to thunder rumbling and rain a falling.

Never mind.

Well forecast Keith and Joe.
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Yep one early here, then a cracker at 9.30am depositing 9mm in 5 mins.
Well done Keith outforecast the Met office on this one who did say
showers but no real mention of storms.
Dave

Just like the other week with that cell over Bracknell that Roy reported. Surely with all their data the MetO should be producing better forecasts at a local level

On 02/08/2013 09:48, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Friday, 2 August 2013 06:58:15 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Tudor Hughes wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 21:51:20 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote: On 01/08/2013 21:41, Keith (Southend)G wrote: They seem to be playing this down, but with such a hot and humid air mass being over-ridden by cooler air off the Atlantic (cold front) tomorrow, there must be plenty of head scratching going on atm in the office! Keith (Southend) That what I thought Keith. I can't see how thunderstorms can't happen tomorrow. Joe Wolverhampton. Thunderstorms can *always* not happen. Despite what the soundings may tell you it always needs a trigger. Looks like they've been triggered. ;-) -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. 'To do is to be' - Nietzsche 'To be is to do' - Kant 'Do be do be do' - Sinatra



Yes read Keiths and Joe's posts around midnight, checked with the wonderful UKLMO sofware for Bromley (yes got it back again) and on there was not one teenie weenie dicky bird about rain and storms. However I awoke at 7:30 in the said area of Bromley to thunder rumbling and rain a falling.

Never mind.

Well forecast Keith and Joe.


I'm keeping with the kelp! LOL.

Joe
Wolverhampton.

On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 02:18:12 -0700 (PDT), Scott W
wrote:
Just like the other week with that cell over Bracknell that Roy
reported. Surely with all their data the MetO should be producing
better forecasts at a local level

The MetO did forecast the storms on that occasion. They correctly
identified where a convergence zone would form, and the intensities
involved. The problem was that it was forecast to affect such a small
area that the emphasis would've (quite rightly) been on the dry
weather that the vast majority of the population would've
experienced. If the MetO had been emphasising the showers then I'm
sure there would've been plenty of complaints of 'over egging' of the
storms :-)

--
Freddie
Castle Pulverbatch
Shropshire
221m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports

On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 09:59:28 +0100, Dave Cornwell
wrote:
Well done Keith outforecast the Met office on this one who did say
showers but no real mention of storms.

Maybe the probability of thunder was too small to allow much emphasis
in the forecasts issued yesterday? Seems they lucked out if that was
the case.

--
Freddie
Castle Pulverbatch
Shropshire
221m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports