Hi

I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year – even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N, one from last year and the other for this year.

Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data set to compare with.

I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.

Bruce.

Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:55:27 -0700 (PDT)
exmetman wrote:

Hi

I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC
today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year
– even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for
Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N,
one from last year and the other for this year.

Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in
stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so
warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned
a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of
temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data
set to compare with.

I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of
the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check
and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.

Bruce.

Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com

I don't recollect anyone expecting a record low for Arctic ice this
year but I could be wrong. This year ranks as one of the heavier ice
years compared to the previous half-dozen but is still lighter than
earlier years.
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...e_Extent_L.png

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
'To do is to be' - Nietzsche
'To be is to do' - Kant
'Do be do be do' - Sinatra

On Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:55:27 PM UTC+1, exmetman wrote:
Hi



I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year – even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N, one from last year and the other for this year.



Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data set to compare with.



I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.



Bruce.



Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com

The weather has been very stormy, with persistent low pressure over the Arctic basin and this has slowed melt this year. Would you point out who was expecting a record low? I don't think anyone did. I've been saying for a month that a record looked unlikely and it still does.

Record summer lows always depend on the weather and the reduction in summer sea ice will not be linear over time because of this, but, as Graham rightly says, despite conditions heavily favouring more ice, this year's low will be far lower than most years in the satellite record. I'd expect the summer ice to be all but gone by the middle of this century.

You can check ice extent/area on these sites:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
http://arctic-roos.org/observations/...tent-in-arctic

It'll only take a minute for you to check now.

NSIDC's last update and commentary is in the first link above. There's some information there that will inform your blog comments and it might be worth mentioning that many Arctic areas were anomalously warm before the start of July, with records being set for temperature in Alaska.

It's just weather Bruce; worthwhile commenting on, but it's nothing more than unusual weather.

Paul

On Sunday, 18 August 2013 17:55:27 UTC+1, exmetman wrote:
Hi



I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year – even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N, one from last year and the other for this year.



Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data set to compare with.



I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.



Bruce.



Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com

Funny you should bring this up, I have see Climate Alert below frezzing for quite a few days now, but I guess we are only 5 weeks away from the equinox.

On Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:01:04 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 17:55:27 UTC+1, exmetman wrote:

Hi







I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year – even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N, one from last year and the other for this year.







Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data set to compare with.







I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.







Bruce.







Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com



Funny you should bring this up, I have see Climate Alert below frezzing for quite a few days now, but I guess we are only 5 weeks away from the equinox.



17th August

71355 Alert Climate(65m)NU# Tx -6.4°C Tn -7.4°C

Wheras the same date last year 2012:

71355 Alert Climate(65m)NU# Tx 14.3°C Tn 4.5°C

and 2011

71355 Alert Climate(65m)NU# Tx 5.6°C Tn -2.3°C



Keith (Southend)

http:www.southendweather.net

"Weather Home & Abroad"

Makes me think with a larger temperature contrast we will be heading for a more mobile / stormy start to autumn?

Keith (Southend)

"exmetman" wrote in message
...

I haven't heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of the sea
ice recently and unfortunately don't have the time to check and see if this
isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.

Bruce.
=================================================

Like Graham, I do not know of anyone who was expecting a record melt this
year.

It took five years for the 2007 record melt to be broken, so it was always
unlikely that last year's record melt would be broken this year. Lawrence
has
already pointed out that the temperatures north of 80N have been unususally
low this summer, as is seen in this chart:
https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/

But despite Arctic air temperatures dropping below 0C, the sea ice is still
retreating, and it will most likely continue to do so until the first week
in September.

If you don't want to spend too much time checking the state of the Arctic,
then a glance at this this web page will give you all you need:
https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/

Cheers, Alastair.

On Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:18:41 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:55:27 -0700 (PDT)

exmetman wrote:



Hi



I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC

today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year

– even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for

Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N,

one from last year and the other for this year.



Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in

stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so

warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned

a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of

temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data

set to compare with.



I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of

the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check

and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.



Bruce.



Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com



I don't recollect anyone expecting a record low for Arctic ice this

year but I could be wrong. This year ranks as one of the heavier ice

years compared to the previous half-dozen but is still lighter than

earlier years.

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...e_Extent_L.png



--

Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.

'To do is to be' - Nietzsche

'To be is to do' - Kant

'Do be do be do' - Sinatra


Really ? How odd all those prophecies that numerous AGW protagonists have made, with many being news grabbing predictions of an 'Ice Free 'arctic.. Yet here you are scratching your head like a dazed Alzheimer's sufferer..

It really is pathetic how apparently intelligent humans have fallen for this politically driven trash. Many here on this NG are also dishonest by nakiing out this is all now a surprise.

On Sunday, 18 August 2013 17:55:27 UTC+1, exmetman wrote:
Hi



I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year – even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N, one from last year and the other for this year.



Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data set to compare with.



I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.



Bruce.



Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com

I can only assume that you've 'killfiled ' me.

Because I've consistently been providing the links.

On Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:45:04 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:55:27 PM UTC+1, exmetman wrote:

Hi







I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year – even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N, one from last year and the other for this year.







Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data set to compare with.







I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.







Bruce.







Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com



The weather has been very stormy, with persistent low pressure over the Arctic basin and this has slowed melt this year. Would you point out who was expecting a record low? I don't think anyone did. I've been saying for a month that a record looked unlikely and it still does.



Record summer lows always depend on the weather and the reduction in summer sea ice will not be linear over time because of this, but, as Graham rightly says, despite conditions heavily favouring more ice, this year's low will be far lower than most years in the satellite record. I'd expect the summer ice to be all but gone by the middle of this century.



You can check ice extent/area on these sites:



http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

http://arctic-roos.org/observations/...tent-in-arctic



It'll only take a minute for you to check now.



NSIDC's last update and commentary is in the first link above. There's some information there that will inform your blog comments and it might be worth mentioning that many Arctic areas were anomalously warm before the start of July, with records being set for temperature in Alaska.



It's just weather Bruce; worthwhile commenting on, but it's nothing more than unusual weather.



Paul

This year !!!!!!!!!! It's the coldest measured temps since 1958 FFS and you act like you have the answer, it's all down to 'stormy weather' case closed as Inspector Clueless strikes again.

On Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:12:27 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:01:04 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:

On Sunday, 18 August 2013 17:55:27 UTC+1, exmetman wrote:



Hi















I've just been having a look at the Arctic SYNOP reports for 1200 UTC today and thought that they looked rather cold for this time of year – even up there. Have a look on my blog at the two climate charts for Cape Morris Jessup (04301) at the top of Greenland at around 83° N, one from last year and the other for this year.















Other sites like Eureka (71917) at around 79°N are also sub-zero in stark contrast to last year. It’s probably late summer 2012 was so warm in the Arctic last year although I do think Winter has returned a little early to these parts. I do have some scattered pieces of temperature climatology for Cape Morris Jessup from the CRUTEM4 data set to compare with.















I haven’t heard much mention about the thinning and disappearance of the sea ice recently and unfortunately don’t have the time to check and see if this isn't the record year at lot of people were expecting.















Bruce.















Images on my blog: https://xmetman.wordpress.com







Funny you should bring this up, I have see Climate Alert below frezzing for quite a few days now, but I guess we are only 5 weeks away from the equinox.







17th August



71355 Alert Climate(65m)NU# Tx -6.4°C Tn -7.4°C



Wheras the same date last year 2012:



71355 Alert Climate(65m)NU# Tx 14.3°C Tn 4.5°C



and 2011



71355 Alert Climate(65m)NU# Tx 5.6°C Tn -2.3°C







Keith (Southend)



http:www.southendweather.net



"Weather Home & Abroad"



Makes me think with a larger temperature contrast we will be heading for a more mobile / stormy start to autumn?



Keith (Southend)

Yes I think you are right there Keith.