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What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"
Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.
Updated 25th Jan.

"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First
Major Snow Come?

After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week
is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the
north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread
wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country
throughout this period.

There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and
widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in
particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a
potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their
forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of
the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to
parts of the far south.

The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up
until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more
near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the
February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry
start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop
for this period"

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On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:02:04 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"

Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.

Updated 25th Jan.



"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First

Major Snow Come?



After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week

is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the

north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread

wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country

throughout this period.



There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and

widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in

particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a

potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their

forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of

the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to

parts of the far south.



The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up

until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more

near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the

February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry

start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop

for this period"


It will certainly become colder in the coming week and there may well be some snow, in some areas. That's hardly exceptional forecasting; you could just read the MetO 5-day forecast. However, I have no idea - and I'm sure no-one else does - where they get the idea that cold and wintry will be the theme to mid-Feb, with winds from the NE. It almost certainly won't.

Potty.
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On Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:47:39 AM UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:02:04 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:

What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"




Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.




Updated 25th Jan.








"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First




Major Snow Come?








After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week




is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the




north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread




wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country




throughout this period.








There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and




widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in




particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a




potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their




forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of




the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to




parts of the far south.








The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up




until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more




near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the




February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry




start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop




for this period"




It will certainly become colder in the coming week and there may well be some snow, in some areas. That's hardly exceptional forecasting; you could just read the MetO 5-day forecast. However, I have no idea - and I'm sure no-one else does - where they get the idea that cold and wintry will be the theme to mid-Feb, with winds from the NE. It almost certainly won't.



Potty.


Actually, just a long-shot; perhaps not potty. I've just seen GEM and I'd only looked at gfs and ECM!
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On Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:02:04 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"

Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.

Updated 25th Jan.



"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First

Major Snow Come?



After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week

is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the

north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread

wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country

throughout this period.



There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and

widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in

particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a

potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their

forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of

the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to

parts of the far south.



The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up

until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more

near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the

February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry

start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop

for this period"


Ah, you missed the first line Dave "Once upon a time" :-)

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"
twitter: @LawnscienceEssx
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Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:02:04 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"

Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.

Updated 25th Jan.



"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First

Major Snow Come?



After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week

is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the

north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread

wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country

throughout this period.



There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and

widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in

particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a

potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their

forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of

the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to

parts of the far south.



The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up

until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more

near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the

February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry

start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop

for this period"


Ah, you missed the first line Dave "Once upon a time" :-)

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"
twitter: @LawnscienceEssx

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Having forecast this continually since November the real issue is that
eventually they will be right! Then there will be headlines about them
being the only agency that got it right.


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On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:11:46 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Keith (Southend)G wrote:

On Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:02:04 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:


What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"




Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.




Updated 25th Jan.








"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First




Major Snow Come?








After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week




is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the




north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread




wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country




throughout this period.








There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and




widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in




particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a




potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their




forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of




the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to




parts of the far south.








The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up




until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more




near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the




February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry




start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop




for this period"




Ah, you missed the first line Dave "Once upon a time" :-)




Keith (Southend)


http://www.southendweather.net


"Weather Home & Abroad"


twitter: @LawnscienceEssx


----------------------------------------------

Having forecast this continually since November the real issue is that

eventually they will be right! Then there will be headlines about them

being the only agency that got it right.


Yes, That's always what happens with these people. No forecast accuracy records are ever presented, just a concentration on the present forecast and a hope that it will be correct. If it is not, they forget it immediately. If it is correct, they trumpet it and use it to bolster a forecasting record which is actually hopeless and with only a little digging and monitoring, demonstrably hopeless. Piers, *******i, the internet hopecasters and a bunch of other wannabes do exactly the same. The only way to combat this is to monitor the accuracy of their forecasts and newsgroups like this do help in that.

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Dawlish wrote:
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:11:46 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Keith (Southend)G wrote:

On Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:02:04 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"
Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.
Updated 25th Jan.
"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First
Major Snow Come?
After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week
is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the
north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread
wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country
throughout this period.
There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and
widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in
particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a
potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their
forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of
the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to
parts of the far south.
The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up
until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more
near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the
February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry
start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop
for this period"
Ah, you missed the first line Dave "Once upon a time" :-)
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"
twitter: @LawnscienceEssx

----------------------------------------------

Having forecast this continually since November the real issue is that

eventually they will be right! Then there will be headlines about them

being the only agency that got it right.


Yes, That's always what happens with these people. No forecast accuracy records are ever presented, just a concentration on the present forecast and a hope that it will be correct. If it is not, they forget it immediately. If it is correct, they trumpet it and use it to bolster a forecasting record which is actually hopeless and with only a little digging and monitoring, demonstrably hopeless. Piers, *******i, the internet hopecasters and a bunch of other wannabes do exactly the same. The only way to combat this is to monitor the accuracy of their forecasts and newsgroups like this do help in that.

--------------------------------------
That's what is so good with Philip Eden's "Not the Long Range
Forecasts". They are really investigations. He is happy to say it might
be very average as well as mild or cold. He does not claim any
brilliance in accuracy and they are there for all to see. December's
turned out to be innacurate, January's quite accurate. When all is said
and done, as a meteorologist, he will be happy to say whether they are
meaningful or not I'm sure.
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On 2014-01-26 07:58:23 +0000, Dawlish said:

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:47:39 AM UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:02:04 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:

What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"




Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.




Updated 25th Jan.








"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First
Major Snow Come?








After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next
week is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer
in from the north east/east. This will allow for the
development of widespread wintry showers and severe frosts for
many parts of the country throughout this period.








There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and
widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in
particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be
a potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will
adjust their forecasts on during the coming week), which could
bring many parts of the country to a standstill due to heavy
snow from the far north to parts of the far south.








The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up
until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some
more near normal temperature values at times in the second half
of the February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold
and wintry start to the March and spring period, even a milder
pattern does develop for this period"




It will certainly become colder in the coming week and there may well
be some snow, in some areas. That's hardly exceptional forecasting; you
could just read the MetO 5-day forecast. However, I have no idea - and
I'm sure no-one else does - where they get the idea that cold and
wintry will be the theme to mid-Feb, with winds from the NE. It almost
certainly won't. Potty.


Actually, just a long-shot; perhaps not potty. I've just seen GEM and
I'd only looked at gfs and ECM!


The forecast for the 31st still looks very interesting, especially for
high ground.

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On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:26:13 PM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Dawlish wrote:

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:11:46 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:


Keith (Southend)G wrote:




On Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:02:04 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:


What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"


Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.


Updated 25th Jan.


"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First


Major Snow Come?


After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week


is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the


north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread


wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country


throughout this period.


There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and


widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in


particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a


potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their


forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of


the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to


parts of the far south.


The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up


until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more


near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the


February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry


start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop


for this period"


Ah, you missed the first line Dave "Once upon a time" :-)


Keith (Southend)


http://www.southendweather.net


"Weather Home & Abroad"


twitter: @LawnscienceEssx


----------------------------------------------




Having forecast this continually since November the real issue is that




eventually they will be right! Then there will be headlines about them




being the only agency that got it right.




Yes, That's always what happens with these people. No forecast accuracy records are ever presented, just a concentration on the present forecast and a hope that it will be correct. If it is not, they forget it immediately.. If it is correct, they trumpet it and use it to bolster a forecasting record which is actually hopeless and with only a little digging and monitoring, demonstrably hopeless. Piers, *******i, the internet hopecasters and a bunch of other wannabes do exactly the same. The only way to combat this is to monitor the accuracy of their forecasts and newsgroups like this do help in that.




--------------------------------------

That's what is so good with Philip Eden's "Not the Long Range

Forecasts". They are really investigations. He is happy to say it might

be very average as well as mild or cold. He does not claim any

brilliance in accuracy and they are there for all to see. December's

turned out to be innacurate, January's quite accurate. When all is said

and done, as a meteorologist, he will be happy to say whether they are

meaningful or not I'm sure.


Agreed, though I think Philip would describe himself as a climatologist first and foremost!
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On Sunday, 26 January 2014 13:53:12 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:26:13 PM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Dawlish wrote:




On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:11:46 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:




Keith (Southend)G wrote:








On Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:02:04 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:




What's that phrase - "Like a dog with a bone"




Now into about week 10 of Exacta Weather's severe cold forecast.




Updated 25th Jan.




"Here Comes The Cold & Snow - But For How Long & When Will The First




Major Snow Come?




After a much cooler and more wintry week throughout this week, next week




is set to turn even colder still, as winds begin to veer in from the




north east/east. This will allow for the development of widespread




wintry showers and severe frosts for many parts of the country




throughout this period.




There is also the ever increasing risk for a number of major and




widespread snow events as we head towards the end of next week, in




particular, in or around Friday. This period could prove to be a




potentially dangerous weather event (that standard met will adjust their




forecasts on during the coming week), which could bring many parts of




the country to a standstill due to heavy snow from the far north to




parts of the far south.




The cold and wintry theme is also set to become the dominant theme up




until the mid-February point at the very least. There may be some more




near normal temperature values at times in the second half of the




February, but this is set to be replaced by another cold and wintry




start to the March and spring period, even a milder pattern does develop




for this period"




Ah, you missed the first line Dave "Once upon a time" :-)




Keith (Southend)




http://www.southendweather.net




"Weather Home & Abroad"




twitter: @LawnscienceEssx




----------------------------------------------








Having forecast this continually since November the real issue is that








eventually they will be right! Then there will be headlines about them








being the only agency that got it right.








Yes, That's always what happens with these people. No forecast accuracy records are ever presented, just a concentration on the present forecast and a hope that it will be correct. If it is not, they forget it immediately. If it is correct, they trumpet it and use it to bolster a forecasting record which is actually hopeless and with only a little digging and monitoring, demonstrably hopeless. Piers, *******i, the internet hopecasters and a bunch of other wannabes do exactly the same. The only way to combat this is to monitor the accuracy of their forecasts and newsgroups like this do help in that.








--------------------------------------




That's what is so good with Philip Eden's "Not the Long Range




Forecasts". They are really investigations. He is happy to say it might




be very average as well as mild or cold. He does not claim any




brilliance in accuracy and they are there for all to see. December's




turned out to be innacurate, January's quite accurate. When all is said




and done, as a meteorologist, he will be happy to say whether they are




meaningful or not I'm sure.




Agreed, though I think Philip would describe himself as a climatologist first and foremost!


He's a meteorologist and has been for several decades what are you on?


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