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Come and join our PROTEST tomorrow WEDS at 12noon outside BBC Portland Place. TOHETHER WE REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFRENCE!!!!!

"Snow, blizzards, and icy blasts (espec North UK) during much of December as warned by WeatherAction 100day ahead made this NHS winter crisis worse.
WeatherAction warned that BBC-MetOffice failure to warn of cold blasts, snow and blizzards to come in parts of December even 30days ahead was short-changing the NHS; the NHS winter fund top-up was too low WeatherAction warned.
BBC ignored WeatherAction - putting their CO2 warmist deluded religion before the NHS and public well being.
Labour, Tories and LibDems also put the CO2 warmist delusion ahead of public well being
We will be back at BBC HQ Weds Jan7th from 12 noon - BBC Portland Place W1 Oxford Circus tube
WeatherAction leaflet BBC Dec1st: http://www.weatheraction.com/docs/WANews14No44.pdf
The STORMY mild spell to hit Britain & Ireland from 7th/8th (espec 8th onwards) was forecast by Weather Action 100days ahead and the BBC and Met Offcie still havn't worked out how bad it will be. It will also lead to accidents and more pressure on NHS.
All these forecasts and more and all updates are in WeatherAction Whole-Winter-Now forecast available 54%OFF via http://bit.ly/1bAYTtM
Remember! Just one example - New snow pounds Sheffield 26/27th Dec - accidents - colds and flu - ambulance delays....
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On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:41:05 PM UTC, Jim Cannon wrote:
Come and join our PROTEST tomorrow WEDS at 12noon outside BBC Portland Place. TOHETHER WE REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFRENCE!!!!!

"Snow, blizzards, and icy blasts (espec North UK) during much of December as warned by WeatherAction 100day ahead made this NHS winter crisis worse.
WeatherAction warned that BBC-MetOffice failure to warn of cold blasts, snow and blizzards to come in parts of December even 30days ahead was short-changing the NHS; the NHS winter fund top-up was too low WeatherAction warned.
BBC ignored WeatherAction - putting their CO2 warmist deluded religion before the NHS and public well being.
Labour, Tories and LibDems also put the CO2 warmist delusion ahead of public well being
We will be back at BBC HQ Weds Jan7th from 12 noon - BBC Portland Place W1 Oxford Circus tube
WeatherAction leaflet BBC Dec1st: http://www.weatheraction.com/docs/WANews14No44.pdf
The STORMY mild spell to hit Britain & Ireland from 7th/8th (espec 8th onwards) was forecast by Weather Action 100days ahead and the BBC and Met Offcie still havn't worked out how bad it will be. It will also lead to accidents and more pressure on NHS.
All these forecasts and more and all updates are in WeatherAction Whole-Winter-Now forecast available 54%OFF via http://bit.ly/1bAYTtM
Remember! Just one example - New snow pounds Sheffield 26/27th Dec - accidents - colds and flu - ambulance delays....
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I don't think weather is the cause Jim.
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In message , Jim
Cannon writes
Come and join our PROTEST tomorrow WEDS at 12noon outside BBC Portland
Place. TOHETHER WE REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFRENCE!!!!!

"Snow, blizzards, and icy blasts (espec North UK) during much of
December as warned by WeatherAction 100day ahead made this NHS winter
crisis worse. WeatherAction warned that BBC-MetOffice failure to warn
of cold blasts, snow and blizzards to come in parts of December even
30days ahead was short-changing the NHS

snip

Piers may be able to fool some of the people some of the time, but
surely he can't get away with rewriting recent events like this? There
was a perfectly ordinary short cold snap at the end of December, with
some snow from the north Midlands northwards, but nothing to remotely
justify Piers' apocalyptic warnings. I don't think it had more than a
minimal impact on the NHS, whose current problems have other causes.
Overall, December was a pretty unremarkable month weather-wise, even in
northern England and Scotland.

I don't know how he has the nerve to come out with stuff like this and
then accuse other people of fraud.
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On 06/01/2015 19:50, Malcolm wrote:

snip a load of crap, even dangerous crap considering the alarm that your
forecasts may have engendered among the elderly.


Well yes, but how many 'elderly' will have seen those 'forecasts'? Also,
unless they are suffering from dementia why would they take them seriously|?

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In message , Brian Lawrence
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On 06/01/2015 19:50, Malcolm wrote:

snip a load of crap, even dangerous crap considering the alarm that your
forecasts may have engendered among the elderly.


Well yes, but how many 'elderly' will have seen those 'forecasts'?


Quite a few, I would think, if they read papers such as the Daily
Express. (And even the Daily Telegraph isn't above running alarmist
weather stories from time to time.)

Also,
unless they are suffering from dementia why would they take them seriously|?


Clearly a lot of people /do/ take them seriously, even including Boris
Johnson who, whatever his faults, seems unlikely to be suffering from
dementia.
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"John Hall" wrote in message
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In message , Brian Lawrence
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On 06/01/2015 19:50, Malcolm wrote:

snip a load of crap, even dangerous crap considering the alarm that your
forecasts may have engendered among the elderly.


Well yes, but how many 'elderly' will have seen those 'forecasts'?


Quite a few, I would think, if they read papers such as the Daily Express.
(And even the Daily Telegraph isn't above running alarmist weather stories
from time to time.)

Also,
unless they are suffering from dementia why would they take them
seriously|?


Clearly a lot of people /do/ take them seriously, even including Boris
Johnson who, whatever his faults, seems unlikely to be suffering from
dementia.


I was playing a league skittles match one night in December and I got asked
about the blizzards, and I said "what blizzards?", the reply was "the ones
the Met Office are forecasting". I just groaned and put them right.
I also took the opportunity to point them to the MetO and Haytor web sites.

Will
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John Hall wrote:

In message , Brian Lawrence
writes
On 06/01/2015 19:50, Malcolm wrote:

snip a load of crap, even dangerous crap considering the alarm that your
forecasts may have engendered among the elderly.


Well yes, but how many 'elderly' will have seen those 'forecasts'?


Quite a few, I would think, if they read papers such as the Daily Express.
(And even the Daily Telegraph isn't above running alarmist weather stories
from time to time.)

Also,
unless they are suffering from dementia why would they take them seriously|?


Clearly a lot of people do take them seriously, even including Boris Johnson
who, whatever his faults, seems unlikely to be suffering from dementia.



Even the Met Office falls into media alarmist jargon at times. The current Peak
District forecast refers to 'severe gale force gusts'.

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On 07/01/2015 10:48, John Hall wrote:
In message , Brian Lawrence
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On 06/01/2015 19:50, Malcolm wrote:

snip a load of crap, even dangerous crap considering the alarm that your
forecasts may have engendered among the elderly.


Well yes, but how many 'elderly' will have seen those 'forecasts'?


Quite a few, I would think, if they read papers such as the Daily
Express. (And even the Daily Telegraph isn't above running alarmist
weather stories from time to time.)


Yes, but no one sane should take seriously what the Express says about
weather, and while their readership can be pigeonholed as 'elderly',
there are not that many of them. Actually, there are very few readers
for any newspapers these days - poss. except the Sun, but Sun readers
rarely care about the weather (unless it's presented on page 3.)

I don't keep track, who provides weather 'forecasts' for which 'paper
these days? (Clearly if the Telegraph article is by Philip Eden, it's
worth reading - which I usually do).

Also,
unless they are suffering from dementia why would they take them
seriously|?


Clearly a lot of people /do/ take them seriously, even including Boris
Johnson who, whatever his faults, seems unlikely to be suffering from
dementia.


I've heard/partly read what he said/wrote, but am not aware of the
context. He likes to make jokes, and sometimes says things to provoke a
reaction, or to make a point.

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On Tuesday, 6 January 2015 19:57:53 UTC, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Jim
Cannon writes
Come and join our PROTEST tomorrow WEDS at 12noon outside BBC Portland
Place. TOHETHER WE REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFRENCE!!!!!

"Snow, blizzards, and icy blasts (espec North UK) during much of
December as warned by WeatherAction 100day ahead made this NHS winter
crisis worse.


Why are you telling lies, Jim?

WeatherAction warned that BBC-MetOffice failure to warn of cold blasts,
snow and blizzards to come in parts of December even 30days ahead was
short-changing the NHS; the NHS winter fund top-up was too low
WeatherAction warned.


But there were minimal "cold blasts, snow and blizzards", despite your
forecast that "This will probably be the most extreme 5 days of snow
blizzards and and gales in Britain and Ireland for 100 years"

So why are you lying, Jim?

snip a load of crap, even dangerous crap considering the alarm that your
forecasts may have engendered among the elderly.

So what about handing in a humble apology at the BBC tomorrow, Jim, as
well as posting one here?

Wasn't your previous post about fraud?

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And if those elderly visited the UKMO website?


Oh the irony.

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On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:56:49 AM UTC, wrote:

I also took the opportunity to point them to the MetO and Haytor web sites.

Will


you were doing fine until the last sentence, where the juxtaposition of the two caused me to utter a loud guffaw. 8))

PS I see there has been no reply from piers. I winder why?



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