It is very difficult to work out where it is cold and where there is
snow cover. The Media aren't helping. It's not a North vs London bias
it's a we'll report the worst case as being everywhere bias. On News 24
I just got in the handover to the forecaster " Can it possibly get any
colder than this?" Answer, "Not really after the near record breaking
temperatures in some parts last night". Am I imagining this stuff or are
they? I am prepared to concede that today is the first day of a cold
snap here as the max looks like being 3.6C today and there was a slight
frost last night.
BUT where exactly is all of the snow cover and freezing weather they
keep mentioning?

Dave, S.Essex

BUT where exactly is all of the snow cover and freezing
weather they keep mentioning?
Dave, S.Essex

Well, it is frosty here - just. There's ice on puddles showing
no sign of melting, and the car thermometer was showing 0.0ºC.
The sky is cloudless and there was even some warmth in the sun,
and all the hills of Sutherland and Caithness are covered in
snow. Beautiful. Wish I could have stayed out all day

Anne

On 19/01/2015 14:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
It is very difficult to work out where it is cold and where there is
snow cover. The Media aren't helping. It's not a North vs London bias
it's a we'll report the worst case as being everywhere bias. On News 24
I just got in the handover to the forecaster " Can it possibly get any
colder than this?" Answer, "Not really after the near record breaking
temperatures in some parts last night". Am I imagining this stuff or are
they? I am prepared to concede that today is the first day of a cold
snap here as the max looks like being 3.6C today and there was a slight
frost last night.
BUT where exactly is all of the snow cover and freezing weather they
keep mentioning?

Dave, S.Essex

Well Dave, see my recent post. The snow line is now about 100' above me
and the hills to the south are thickly clad. West of here, including the
Glasgow area, has snow cover as well.


Here you go, 1020-1205 today
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/i...5019.terra.1km

although there's a lot of cloud over N England and Midlands

--
George in Swanston, Edinburgh, 575'asl
www.swanstonweather.co.uk
www.eppingweather.co.uk
www.winter1947.co.uk

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ...

On News 24
I just got in the handover to the forecaster " Can it possibly get any
colder than this?" Answer, "Not really after the near record breaking
temperatures in some parts last night".
================================

At lunchtime, I thought I heard them saying record cold (...for this year,
or maybe it was this winter).

"George Booth" wrote in message
...
On 19/01/2015 14:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
It is very difficult to work out where it is cold and where there is
snow cover. The Media aren't helping. It's not a North vs London bias
it's a we'll report the worst case as being everywhere bias. On News 24
I just got in the handover to the forecaster " Can it possibly get any
colder than this?" Answer, "Not really after the near record breaking
temperatures in some parts last night". Am I imagining this stuff or are
they? I am prepared to concede that today is the first day of a cold
snap here as the max looks like being 3.6C today and there was a slight
frost last night.
BUT where exactly is all of the snow cover and freezing weather they
keep mentioning?

Dave, S.Essex

Well Dave, see my recent post. The snow line is now about 100' above me
and the hills to the south are thickly clad. West of here, including the
Glasgow area, has snow cover as well.


Here you go, 1020-1205 today
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/i...5019.terra.1km

although there's a lot of cloud over N England and Midlands


Snow cover over upland Wales, Exmoor and northern Dartmoor show up well on
that image too. Thanks George.

But to answer Dave's question, clearly northern Britain and many parts of
Wales are cold. Just beginning in the SE and in the SW it began yesterday,
bearing in mind that upland areas of England like the Cotswolds, Peak
District and SW moors can get snow in January even in milder spells. A good
indicator of cold weather in my locality is not snow but persistence of ice.
Yesterday was the first day that ice persisted all day (even in sunshine).
Proper cold is when we start to get rime icing and that has not happened yet
this winter.

Will
--
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Dave Cornwell wrote:

It is very difficult to work out where it is cold and where there is snow
cover. The Media aren't helping. It's not a North vs London bias it's a we'll
report the worst case as being everywhere bias. On News 24 I just got in the
handover to the forecaster " Can it possibly get any colder than this?"
Answer, "Not really after the near record breaking temperatures in some parts
last night". Am I imagining this stuff or are they? I am prepared to concede
that today is the first day of a cold snap here as the max looks like being
3.6C today and there was a slight frost last night. BUT where exactly is all
of the snow cover and freezing weather they keep mentioning?

Dave, S.Essex

I was rather amused this morning listening to Mishal Hussain doing a telephone
interview with a B&B owner at Altnaharra. The thrust of the interview was along
the lines of

"How do you manage to cope with the temperature as low as -7"

The implication was that this was cold beyond what could reasonably be
expected. Sad really :-( Goodness knows what the media would come up with if we
got a proper cold spell.

Despite having had a fair bit of snow here this month the mean temperature for
the month to date is still 2 deg above the January average. The next few days
will undoubtedly bring it back closer to the average but it's by no means been
a cold month so far

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

On 19/01/2015 15:02, Eskimo Will wrote:

"George Booth" wrote in message
...
On 19/01/2015 14:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
It is very difficult to work out where it is cold and where there is
snow cover.

snip

Here you go, 1020-1205 today
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/i...5019.terra.1km


Snow cover over upland Wales, Exmoor and northern Dartmoor show up well
on that image too. Thanks George.

Jack Harrison introduced me to those maps. Here is a useful page
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/i...reland.2015019

Terra and Aqua informative as I believe they show where it is
freezing-although that includes cloud tops as well.


--
George in Swanston, Edinburgh, 575'asl
www.swanstonweather.co.uk
www.eppingweather.co.uk
www.winter1947.co.uk

On 19/01/15 14:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
It is very difficult to work out where it is cold and where there is
snow cover. The Media aren't helping. It's not a North vs London bias
it's a we'll report the worst case as being everywhere bias. On News 24
I just got in the handover to the forecaster " Can it possibly get any
colder than this?" Answer, "Not really after the near record breaking
temperatures in some parts last night". Am I imagining this stuff or are
they? I am prepared to concede that today is the first day of a cold
snap here as the max looks like being 3.6C today and there was a slight
frost last night.
BUT where exactly is all of the snow cover and freezing weather they
keep mentioning?

Dave, S.Essex

It was all shown clearly on the weather forecast map last night (BBC TV).
As for 'can it get any colder?' The answer is yes, quite easily and it
would be surprising if it didn't.

Zero degrees in my area today but very light wind so feels warm enough.


--
AS
http://min.opcop.org.uk
the minnies and more

On Monday, 19 January 2015 14:32:22 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
It is very difficult to work out where it is cold and where there is
snow cover. The Media aren't helping. It's not a North vs London bias
it's a we'll report the worst case as being everywhere bias. On News 24
I just got in the handover to the forecaster " Can it possibly get any
colder than this?"

Yes I saw that. Quite brilliant. Also talking about the record not being likely to go for the coldest ever. Jesus. The whole thing's been blown out of proportion. It's January. It snows. Much as I'd like it to snow down here , thank heavens it hasn't for the amount of media nonsense we'd get with reporters "posted" everywhere awaiting the next snowflake with baited frosty breath.

Richard

George Booth wrote:

On 19/01/2015 15:02, Eskimo Will wrote:

"George Booth" wrote in message
...
On 19/01/2015 14:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
It is very difficult to work out where it is cold and where there is
snow cover.

snip

Here you go, 1020-1205 today

http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/i...5019.terra.1km


Snow cover over upland Wales, Exmoor and northern Dartmoor show up well
on that image too. Thanks George.

Jack Harrison introduced me to those maps. Here is a useful page

http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/i...reland.2015019

Terra and Aqua informative as I believe they show where it is
freezing-although that includes cloud tops as well.


The high resolution version is even more addictive:-)

http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/i...019.terra.250m

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org