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I know some on here are fans of hers (perhaps for other reasons than
weather presenting!) but I always find her presentations confusing. She
came on this morning all jolly and saying it was going to be a pretty
good week ahead.(bear in mind this is the first week of August). The
summary was:-
Not as Chilly
Wet and windy at times
Driest in the south and east.

I would imagine this is broadly correct in that the North may be less
chilly although it looked cooler for here (23C, 27C last two days).
She then showed today with cloud and perhaps drizzle with heavy thundery
downpours tonight in the S.E (We've had no rain for a week so how that
is drier I'm not sure).
Tuesday looked very windy and quite wet in the north and not that sunny.
Reasonable for the South East.
So still not brilliant for the North and pretty much what we have had
recently in the S.E but a risk of rain. Perhaps the cheeriness was for
the rest of the week but that wasn't made at all clear and I think there
may be some disappointed holiday makers who watched that.

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The problem this summer is that the NW has been so different from the SE - not that unusual but it had been very marked this year. It is bound to make the message in a national forecast very confusing.
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What's really confusing is when the term "the North" or "the NW" is used. Somewhat meaningless unless further defined e.g, the North of Scotland, England, UK.
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 04:38:06 -0700 (PDT), Desperate Dan
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What's really confusing is when the term "the North" or "the NW" is used. Somewhat meaningless unless further defined e.g, the North of Scotland, England, UK.


I agree. Unless 'the North' is put into context it could be south of
here.

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Alan White wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 04:38:06 -0700 (PDT), Desperate Dan
wrote:

What's really confusing is when the term "the North" or "the NW" is
used. Somewhat meaningless unless further defined e.g, the North of
Scotland, England, UK.


I agree. Unless 'the North' is put into context it could be south of
here.


Indeed.
And I'm only about one third of the way up the country.
Am I in 'the south' then?
No chance!
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"Alan White" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 04:38:06 -0700 (PDT), Desperate Dan
wrote:

What's really confusing is when the term "the North" or "the NW" is used.
Somewhat meaningless unless further defined e.g, the North of Scotland,
England, UK.


I agree. Unless 'the North' is put into context it could be south of
here.

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By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
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And the "South East" which is mentioned at least 50 times in each forecast
also has no context.


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In message , Dave Cornwell
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I know some on here are fans of hers (perhaps for other reasons than
weather presenting!) but I always find her presentations confusing. She
came on this morning all jolly and saying it was going to be a pretty
good week ahead.(bear in mind this is the first week of August). The
summary was:-
Not as Chilly
Wet and windy at times
Driest in the south and east.


I don't know if it's that she's a natural optimist or the instructions
that she operates under, but she always seems to be relentlessly
cheerful, and this looks like another example. However dire the
forecast, she always has a smile on her face. I suspect that if she had
had to forecast the ten plagues of Egypt, she would have found a bright
side. ("Yes, it's unfortunate that the first-born are going to die, but
at least without so many mouths to feed it should help with the
famine.")

The thing that annoys me most about her forecasts - and those of the
other presenters - is when she's covering northern Scotland, say, and
says something like: "We're going to have a wet start to the day." YOU
aren't, Carol. You're hundreds of miles away. The presenters have
clearly been ordered to be matey and inclusive and to say "we", so it's
their managers who should take the blame rather than the presenters
themselves.
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On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 12:38:07 PM UTC+1, Desperate Dan wrote:
What's really confusing is when the term "the North" or "the NW" is used. Somewhat meaningless unless further defined e.g, the North of Scotland, England, UK.


Or indeed, as today, when "the south and east will be mainly dry, the north & west will be wet". Given my position near the southernmost & westernmost parts of mainland UK that presents a dilemna.

Graham
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On 03/08/2015 18:41, Col wrote:

Indeed.
And I'm only about one third of the way up the country.
Am I in 'the south' then?
No chance!
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You are now you've told me that :-)
Dave

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On 03/08/2015 19:00, David Haggas wrote:
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Really, 50 times eh? I must have missed the other 48 whilst she was
concentrating on the high seas in the SW and the wet and windy weather
over NW Scotland. Yawns :-(




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