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Paul Garvey[_2_] · March 29th 16, 06:46 AM posted to uk.sci.weather

On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 11:42:18 PM UTC+1, Martin Dixon wrote:
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Paul Garvey wrote:

On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 1:46:32 PM UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Monday, 28 March 2016 13:31:44 UTC+1, Paul Garvey wrote:
On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 12:12:36 PM UTC+1, Martin Dixon wrote:
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Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Friday, 25 March 2016 11:08:57 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 10:22:49 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
In the March issue of Weather, the 'Weather news' section has an
article headed 'Will climate change delay transatlantic flights?' Now
I assumed from the title and the prevailing thoughts on the effects of
climate change that, contrary to the CEP Brooks article in Weather in
1950, the differential warming between the Arctic and the Tropics would
weaken the jet-stream, this delay to flights would be referring to
eastbound flights. On reading the article, I see my assumptions were
wrong.

The article says that eastbound flights will speed up due to the
strengthening jet-stream but west-bound ones will slow. It says that
unless emissions are cut, jet-stream winds along the flight route
between Heathrow and JFK are 'predicted to to become 15% faster in
winter, increasing from 77 to 89km/h, with similar increases in the
other seasons.'

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And?

We all know the globs warmed ever so slightly and well within the wild
swings of the past. Are you saying only human produced C02 can reach
the parts natural forcing's can't reach.

Anyway if the jet stream is strengthening even though the extremes
between heat and cold is very so slightly less how do you know
another mechanism is not at work that is strengthening the jet stream
and causing a slight warming.

You have hijacked this thread with your stupid unhelpful remark.
Thus we now have the insufferable Martin Dixon banging on trying to
show us what a clever-clogs he is and all the usual trolls having
their two penn'orth and all of it nothing to do with the subject
which is the apparently paradoxical increase in strength in the jet
with global warming. This is far too detailed, far too boring, needs
actual meteorological knowledge. Let's talk GW, meteorology for the
non-meteorologist. Any ignorant herbert can join in. What a rabble.
This place needs a chairman.

Tudor Hughes

You mean a moderator? Or a censor, to remove all non politically
correct posts. If you can't stand your science being questioned, it
isn't very good science. We need to admit there s a lot we don't
know. Forget the arrogant posturing, it is no disgrace to admit we
don't know. And that is the first step towards increasing our
knowledge. If we assume we do know, and adopt an entrenched position,
they it is much harder to learn and progress. Most likely the
consensus is correct, but I need to be convinced, and so far I am not.

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