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Given the brightness of that display I'd be looking in the opposite
direction for 120 degree parhelia!


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On 06/12/2016 11:30, Mike Causer wrote:
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Given the brightness of that display I'd be looking in the opposite
direction for 120 degree parhelia!


That is certainly a very bright and white one. More often than not the
sundogs are quite highly coloured by wavelength dispersion.

Saw a really nice one sided sundog and a colourful circum zenithal arc
at Whitby 15/11/2016. Conditions recently have been about right for this
in the UK with milky white high cirrus on very cold sunny days.

Sundogs are a lot more common than you might think. But few people seem
to notice them or be impressed when they are pointed out.

I can understand how CZAs get missed. I'd have missed it too if I hadn't
been looking upwards to frame a photograph of a lighthouse.

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On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 11:04:56 UTC, P.Chortik wrote:
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It is wilful ignorance to assume that there is no god and that he doesn't have a means of indicating things of significance to us, when all you have to do to find out is ask him.

Be assured that he has never done anything to or for you without first indicating his promises.
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 12:32:58 +0000
Martin Brown wrote:

I can understand how CZAs get missed. I'd have missed it too if I
hadn't been looking upwards to frame a photograph of a lighthouse.


I had been looking for CZA in the wrong place for years. The first I
saw was when flying a friend's radio control helicopter almost overhead.
Now I regard them as pretty common of course. 120 degree parhelia I
have still only seen twice, but I always look down-sun if there is any
hint.

There is one phenomenon I have seen but not found any mention of it on
the internet or books. A full-colour circum-solar halo at roughly 10-12
degrees. It was early morning in winter and the sun was not high. The
display persisted for quite a while and slowly faded to white. Sadly I
was on the bus to work, had no camera, and 20 years ago had no mobile
phone to contact like-minded friends[*]. By the time I got to work it
had gone.

[*] I phoned one like-minded friend at 3am to tell him about a good
auroral display. His wife answered and said "He's in America. That's
why he didn't meet you for a beer on your usual day!" Oops.


Mike



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On 06/12/2016 13:06, Weatherlawyer wrote: faith to believe that there
On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 11:04:56 UTC, P.Chortik wrote:
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It is wilful ignorance to assume that there is no god


But only wilful faith to assume that there *is* a god....

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On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:22:16 UTC, Col wrote:
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It is wilful ignorance to assume that there is no god


But only wilful faith to assume that there *is* a god....


See if you can think that one through more thoroughly and try harder not to be clever. Run when you have learned to walk because you have a lot to catch up.
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On 06/12/2016 21:55, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:22:16 UTC, Col wrote:
On 06/12/2016 13:06, Weatherlawyer wrote:



It is wilful ignorance to assume that there is no god


But only wilful faith to assume that there *is* a god....


See if you can think that one through more thoroughly and try harder not to be clever. Run when you have learned to walk because you have a lot to catch up.

That is *exactly* what religion is based upon. There is no *proof* as in
mathematics, neither can the existance of God be deduced via scientific
experimentation.

For the record I am an agnostic. I don' know whether there is a God but
I also believe that such knowledge is fundamentally unknowable.


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