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Weather forecasts show rain and weather warnings show snow.

So what is it to be? You can't have your kayak and heat it. However that doesn't stop UKMO thinking they can.

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On Thursday, 12 January 2017 11:54:20 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
Weather forecasts show rain and weather warnings show snow.

So what is it to be?


Sleet?


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Mainly showery rain for Western coasts below 700ft or in large cities/towns, maybe wet snow in rural spots or anywhere over 300ft inland... either way no more than few inches anywhere due to drifting.. .heaping it up periodically along prone routes. M6 N of Stoke has overhead signs saying "Salt Spreading" as from about now.

Hope this may clarify a bit more for you. I am not on duty today, so don't know more detail.
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On Thursday, 12 January 2017 12:16:41 UTC, Alastair wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2017 11:54:20 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
Weather forecasts show rain and weather warnings show snow.

So what is it to be?


Sleet?


You stop apologising for them until you can get them to show us the graph your Arctic ice makes as it melts under all that weight of carbondioxide.

Make them jumpstates!
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On 12/01/2017 12:16, Alastair wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2017 11:54:20 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
Weather forecasts show rain and weather warnings show snow.

So what is it to be?


Sleet?



Any 'yellow snow' warnings?

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Lawrence Jenkins writes
Weather forecasts show rain


If you mean the map of the SE on the Met Office website, that's for one
particular time, probably this afternoon when only rain is expected. A
snapshot for early evening instead might well be plastered in snow
symbols.

and weather warnings show snow.


The weather warnings are for the POSSIBILITY of snow. They do not say
that it WILL snow. You need to read the accompanying screed, which says:

"Warning: Rain moving eastwards across the south of the UK today may
turn to snow in places. The most likely scenario is for 2 to 4 cm to
fall above about 100 m elevation across parts of southeast England with
1 to 2 cm to low levels in places. However, there remains a small chance
of snow settling more widely with 5 to 10 cm at low levels this evening,
leading to disruption to road, rail and air services as well as
interruptions to power supplies and other utilities - this more likely
across East Anglia and southeast England. Across Wales and western
England snow will more likely be confined to high ground.

""Chief Forecaster's assessment: As a developing area of low pressure
moves east across southern Britain today there is potential for rain to
turn rapidly to snow as cold air is drawn in. However, there remains
uncertainty over the track and intensity of this system, meaning that
confidence is low in the amount and extent of any snow."


So what is it to be? You can't have your kayak and heat it. However
that doesn't stop UKMO thinking they can.


They are obviously very uncertain. Tomas Schafernaker was more frank
about that uncertainty in his broadcast after the 1pm news on BBC 1 than
I can recall ever seeing before just a matter of hours before the
(possible) event. He came up with a figure of 5 cm of snow for the SE,
but admitted that that was a pretty arbitrary figure chosen because it
was halfway between the two possible extremes of none and 10 cm.

If it DOES snow in SE England, it seems to be most likely between about
6 and 8pm, give or take an hour or so.
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On Thursday, 12 January 2017 16:37:53 UTC, John Hall wrote:
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Lawrence Jenkins writes
Weather forecasts show rain


If you mean the map of the SE on the Met Office website, that's for one
particular time, probably this afternoon when only rain is expected. A
snapshot for early evening instead might well be plastered in snow
symbols.


He always does this. Ignore him is the best way.
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On Thursday, 12 January 2017 16:32:01 UTC, vidcapper wrote:

Any 'yellow snow' warnings? ?


The BBC went to the expense of sending a wet sheep all the way to America to ask about yellow rain. We haven't had any replies from Dawlish lately, anyone know why?

We should get someone to have a look at his psspot.

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