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I noticed that we had a few days warning from UKMO, but this time around,there was no name attributed to the so called "Storm" of the past few days.

Have we seen sense and finally dumped that childish idea?

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On 2017-06-07 08:03:16 +0000, Crusader said:

I noticed that we had a few days warning from UKMO, but this time
around,there was no name attributed to the so called "Storm" of the
past few days.

Have we seen sense and finally dumped that childish idea?

C


Either that or the number of pseudo-storms exceeded their knowledge of
the alphabet. Once past the tenth letter, one runs out of fingers and
thumbs.


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On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 01:03:16 -0700 (PDT)
Crusader wrote:

I noticed that we had a few days warning from UKMO, but this time
around,there was no name attributed to the so called "Storm" of the past few
days.

Have we seen sense and finally dumped that childish idea?


Let's hope so.

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On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 9:03:17 AM UTC+1, Crusader wrote:
I noticed that we had a few days warning from UKMO, but this time around,there was no name attributed to the so called "Storm" of the past few days.

Have we seen sense and finally dumped that childish idea?

C

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Clearly the forecast impacts were not enough to warrant a name.
Sadly, 3 young men lost their lives on the road near Plymouth in appalling wet and windy driving conditions.

However, it is highly unlikely the naming of the storm would have prevented these deaths. The yellow warning certainly did not.

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On 07/06/2017 09:03, Crusader wrote:
I noticed that we had a few days warning from UKMO, but this time around,there was no name attributed to the so called "Storm" of the past few days.

Have we seen sense and finally dumped that childish idea?

C


One way of ranking storms could be by the number of people killed,
directly attributable to the storm, falling tree, washed out to sea by
coastal wave, flying debris etc, so the 05-06 storm had a mortality
rating of 2 , ISTR.


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On Wed, 07 Jun 2017 14:48:00 +0100
N_Cook wrote:

On 07/06/2017 09:03, Crusader wrote:
I noticed that we had a few days warning from UKMO, but this time
around,there was no name attributed to the so called "Storm" of the past
few days.

Have we seen sense and finally dumped that childish idea?

C


One way of ranking storms could be by the number of people killed,
directly attributable to the storm, falling tree, washed out to sea by
coastal wave, flying debris etc, so the 05-06 storm had a mortality
rating of 2 , ISTR.


But then you'd have to normalise it according to population density, time of
day and whether it was a holiday or weekend. Let's just keep things simple and
do away with names, impacts etc. and just stick to the meteorology and
geography.

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On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 2:50:30 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jun 2017 14:48:00 +0100
N_Cook wrote:

On 07/06/2017 09:03, Crusader wrote:
I noticed that we had a few days warning from UKMO, but this time
around,there was no name attributed to the so called "Storm" of the past
few days.

Have we seen sense and finally dumped that childish idea?

C


One way of ranking storms could be by the number of people killed,
directly attributable to the storm, falling tree, washed out to sea by
coastal wave, flying debris etc, so the 05-06 storm had a mortality
rating of 2 , ISTR.


But then you'd have to normalise it according to population density, time of
day and whether it was a holiday or weekend. Let's just keep things simple and
do away with names, impacts etc. and just stick to the meteorology and
geography.

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Sounds good to me.

Anyway how to check the death/injury rate, and is it highest in the most severe weather anyway?

In the far SW there was this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-40170199. hopefully he will recover. The Sennen lifeboat was also called out to a yacht on the night 5th /6th. If the weather had been severe, the yachts would not have been out to get into trouble, people would have been tucked up safely.

Also most drownings on Cornish beaches occur when the weather's a bit iffy, but not too bad - so people are out and about, windsurfing in a strong offshore etc.

Graham
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If there were only yellow warnings for this depression then evidently it would not have fit the criteria:

"A storm will be named when it has the potential to cause an amber 'be prepared' or red 'take action' warning.

Other weather types will also be considered, specifically rain if its impact could lead to flooding as advised by the Environment Agency, SEPA and Natural Resources Wales flood warnings. Therefore 'storms systems' could be named on the basis of impacts from wind but also include the impacts of rain and snow."

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/barometer/uk-storm-centre

So far I have not seen any named outside of November-March.


Stephen,
Indianapolis IN.


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